How much bankroll do you need?
In theory, 1400 units. In my experience never gone even close to that. My record is around 450. But It is good to have some margins.
How many numbers you bet?
Depends. Changes during the game.
Did the game ends with the first hit?
Only if hits in the firsts spins. Sometimes I need 2 hits, sometimes five…
What the average profit?
Each and every game ends with a profit from 1 to 9 units. The average profit, because games can last 1 spin while other 30 or so, is around .30
Do you need a “magical” combination in order to win?
Not at all. All is needed is that I hit an average of 1 every 60 numbers played (or better). As soon as this threshold is reached, the game is won. Has happen I had to wait more than 180 numbers played before the first hit, then in the next 15 spins or so, with three more hit, the game was over.
How you choose numbers to play?
I use a system to avoid any mistake, and to fasten the game. There is no a better pattern or a best or worst choice, the important is the total numbers played, in the way the system asks for.
How many spins your system stands?
It can go almost 260 spins. The longest game I experienced is 73 spins, and the second worst around 50. The average game last 4 spins. During the day 80% of games are from 1 spins to 12.
Do you sell it?
No, I don’t.
Because I don’t want to. I make enough money with it to be satisfied, and if I had to put a price tag, that should be quite high.
Are calculations complicated?
Not really. In the vast majority of games I can compute mentally, using a clicker to keep track of spins. When the game becomes longer, let say more than 20 spins, you should keep track of balance, but is not complicated at all.
Do you cheat the wheel?
No, in any way. I use math.
So, what’s the philosophy of the system?
I think progression is the key. I don’t think there is a way to predict what numbers will be next, or sector or street or… Past spins have no influence, the dealer have not, the cabalistic aspect of numbers… BS. Even statistic has no matter in few spins, because it works on large amount of numbers.
How you found it?
I tried and tried tons of systems, changing approach every time that I felt stuck and cannot improve further what I had. I guess I have been lucky finding an unusual way to build a progression. As a matter of fact, I never seen a progression even close as the one I use.
Why you are not rich?
In an average day, you can play 8/10 hours, with frequent stops. Most of all, because looking at a wheel is boring (I usually browse the internet meanwhile, because you don’t need much attention in the first 10 spins, or chatting or using Facebook etc. etc.). The airball machine, that is faster than live roulette (close to 1 spin every fifty seconds) allows me to profit 30/40 units hr. I play with 3$ chips, so my day ends when I get 1000$. That goes two/three days a week.
With a 3$ unit chip, for 1400 bankroll needed, I bring with me 4500$.
My plan is move to 5$ then 10$, so to reach a profit of 3000$ a day, or 6000$ a week, or 24000$ a month, “working” only two days a week.
Last year, for example, I played for long sessions of 12 and 14 days in a row, in Atlantic City and Las Vegas. Not a pleasureful experience, except for money.
Back to math. To became rich you should play something like 4 days a week, with a 20$ units, so you have to bring 30000$ cash in the casino (go figure) and maybe redeem 10000$ over and over… You get noticed, not only by casino’s employees: thieves, gold diggers, people in needs, other gamblers… I don’t want that!
Are you the only winner?
I don’t think so. I played in hundreds places, from US to Australia, from Norway to Spain, on cruise ships and so on, and I met at least other two guys that seemed to have a good system. You can say this because they didn’t celebrate huge winnings, they were very focused on the game, and I “recognized” my same behaviors (no rewards cards, no chatting with others, no emotional display of any sort).
Did you ever lost?
Three times. Once I had to go to the bathroom because of oysters… yeah, enjoy the buffet, they say. Another was because they had to clean the area where the roulette was located. They gave me a warning of three spins then they closed the machine. I was out of like 20 units, so not a big deal. Third, and most painful, in the middle of a long game, I was out around 150 units, and my sister called me at the phone. My mother was no more, and I left without caring of the systems or the money.
Do you play online?
No. I think it is too easy to rig results, and secondarily I don’t want to be noticed. I change often casinos, and I cannot stick to an online one.
Did you ever told someone the system.
I wrote the system for my family, if something happens to me. Unfortunately my daughter is too young to learn it, and my wife cannot grab it. I had sometimes the temptation, for vanity or because someone needed so badly, but I refrained myself.
I thought to teach it to my brother, so he could protect my family if something unexpected happens to me. This is my biggest concern. I am not in a good relationship with him, and I do not trust him 100%, and I don’t think he got the right attitude to play the system at the casino, because lacks of discipline.
Something more to add?
I’m just a nickname on a monitor, and people reading it are nicknames too. I don’t want to impress females just to bring them to me, so there is no use to fake something. I don’t care if people believes it or not. I have been called liar and attention seeker, dreamer or scammer. I get sad reading these statements, because they do not understand my position, and moreover they reveal their short sight. Unfortunately my English is not good enough to express myself completely, and I am sure I made a lot of mistakes here, but I hope someone will be encouraged to find his own way to his HG.
Jake, consider that I was living in Europe till few years ago, and my English was nothing back then. I never heard of the website you are talking to.
I made my progression entirely from scratch.
I didn't figure it out in a blast, though. The initial draft was different, then I adjusted it practicing and playing, when my mind figure out a way to improve it. Not all improvements has been for the better, so sometimes you have to go back to basic, but what I have now is untouched since 2014.
Ever attempt I made to improve it further has been unsuccessful, so I guess I reached the top of it.
I think the first year has been just recovery, for all the money I spent previously, in systems and strategies that didn't work.
In almost thirty years of attempts, I had my share of desperation and anger. Many times I thrown away pads and notes, with thousands and thousand of outcomes on which I tested systems that lasted less than 2 hours in a real play.
Is not easy to win even with a winning system. As I said, boredom is a potent killer. You need discipline and self control. These are characteristics my brother doesn't have. I understand is quite sad as a statement, but this is it.
He is an honest man, but is not a player in any sense, and the system for him is just a waste. The defeat is, primarily, on the player.
I will not share. Let's say you want to start a business, a solid and established franchising. You have to pay a quote, and initial setup, and a slice of your profit, or a monthly fee. I thought of it for some time. Put together a bunch of people and sweep casinos, getting a share of their work and all of mine. I thought asking like 50000$, give some training, and when the player is able to walk by itself, start with a new one (I guess it takes less then 30 minutes to learn it, and maybe a day or two to handle at the casino).
My problem was how to control that. I know how much the system profit, but I cannot keep the system with the initial team. They can spread it all over the world, and make it worthless.
Honestly, I don't think the casino can stop it. I don't reach limits, I don't cheat, I don't use any device, is just simple math, but the accessibility to a casino floor is always discretional, so they can kick you out without reasons. So I decided to keep it to me exclusively.
As you can see, there are issues. I thought to keep with me and just my wife, or my brother, as a safety net, but I don't have the right person close to me. Anyway, I wrote it down as a legacy for my family, and they will have it if something will happen to me. I am confident that someone will be able to use it. I am not even 50, so I hope I got some time :]
With the future money, I will do some investment. For now, I spend most of the winning moving to US, buy a small business to get a Visa, and I just recently moved to a new bigger house. As I said, I am not really interested in becoming rich. Never been a dream of mine. I like money, I don't like to be ruled by greed.
Sorry, your guess is wrong. As I said, I play different amounts of numbers as the game progress. Playing one number? I have been already dead for boredom...
I moved recently from 1$ chips to 3$ chips because I reached one of my planned benchmarks (100.000 real spins). When I will cross the 150.000, I will move to 5$, and crossed 200.000 spins played, I will land on a 10$ chips, my final goal.
When, I said when, not if, my system will fall, I will lose less than 0.1% of what I get so far. I don't think I will lose often though.
Moreover, I said that vast majority of games ends in few spins, and this cannot be with a single number bet.
You are not paying attention...
I can't see the point of warning me on a system I am using since 2014, pocketing a lot of money since then
I have a way to select what to bet, in order to avoid confusion or indecision. If system tell me to play a couple of dozens (for example, is not the way how it works...) I have a pattern to chose which dozens are to use. What you choose doesn't affect the final result, as long as you bet two dozens!
This "pattern" helped me testing the system without tweaking results. I tried different patterns with the same spin outcomes, and worked exactly the same.
A winning system must work in every situation, or is not a winning system. If you need to check late, hot, or lucky numbers, is not a winning system, it is a strategy.
Is good, though, after many months after my last visit, see that someone is still working on my clues. That's exactly what I hoped for, telling you that is possible to win, consistently. I understand that is not easy to connect all the dots, but is worthwhile.
Jerome, read with more attention my Q&A. My system can hold for more than 260 spins, and I never play a single number. At spin number 20 I have already played almost 200 numbers. Important is the ratio of the hit (1 out of 60) I get.
Jerome, At spin number 10 I already played 228 numbers, for an outstanding balance of 93 pieces. Yes, I need several hit to recover and be in profit, but as you can understand with the number I show is not so difficult to get, or too costly.
For example at spin number 10 I know I need 4 hits in a short period, or five in a longer one. I assure you it is quite rare reach spin number 10 without any hit!
When you hit, you play less numbers, and when you don't, the total numbers played tend to increase.
The apparent contradiction is easy to explain. I have been asked how many number without hitting I can sustain, and I showed that. In the vast majority of games I hit something, and this will change completely the total sum of number played, as my outstanding balance at that moment. If you read carefully you can see it quite easily from my basic explanation posted earlier.
Impossible to recover? I need four hits, and several spin to obtain that, and after every hit I reduce my total bet so gaining more "time" to fill my 1/60 ratio.
About what I select, I already wrote that I have a pattern that I follow, so to not be confused or distracted. My preferred pattern is following the last number, sometimes I use another pattern, because at the end it doesn't matter, as I already explained.
Important is how many numbers following a fixed progression bet. That progression is the important part, or "the trap" as Jerome says...
What I want you to understand is my simple advice: You can not predict what number we will come out. Your only weapon against roulette is the money you put in and the way you do it, because is completely up to you. Cold numbers, hot numbers, closer to this or that, magical combinations are all stupid things, in my opinion.
My progression is unique, and takes advantage of the only weakness the wheel has.
Now I remember why I didn't checked this forum in a while...
Zero is a number with the exact possibility to be hit as the others, so if you plan to include it in your pattern of bets it is ok.
I do not play more and more numbers if I don't finish the game in the firsts spins. It is true, though, that the total numbers played TEND to increase when I miss and TEND to decrease when I hit. My system is a combination of bet selection and progression. I pay no attention of what to play.
I had very bad sequences (the longest I remember was first hit at 16th spin, with the profit at spin 27). I had shorter wait on first spin but an overall longest game to reach the profit, so really doesn't change. I do not want to go through my books to find the exact sequence, probably I already written it somewhere or to someone.
The game is usually short, because of the large amount of numbers involved. Despite that, sometimes I play a considerable low amount of numbers, and if I hit in a strict sequence (let's say three in a row) my profit is quite large.
There is no situation that can me bet more than 24 numbers in a single spin.
And yes, I guess it is very hard to catch the system without comprehending what's the source idea of it. You must be think in a original way how to recover your outstanding balance.
I will not explain the system, but I say to you there is one. For a smart, dedicated mind this is all that is needed.
Wow, is my English that bad?
"at spin 10 I already played 228 numbers (with no hits whatsoever)"
"(usually, with some hits meanwhile) at spin 20 I already played almost 200 numbers"
I never play more than 24 numbers in a spin (24*10= 240, means that I play at maximum 24 numbers, so in ten spins I played 228 that brings easily the total below the maximum possible that I posted)
No wonder you can't find it, never in a million years.
I also said the my system can go as long as 260+ spins, not that I need to play that number of spins to reach my goal. Any game, as soon as it reaches the ratio 1 hit every 60 numbers played (roughly!) it is over with a profit.
This profit is 1 piece or more, depends when I get the ratio.
I count units, not dollars.
And I am done for now. Three days and you remembered me to avoid this forum.
Jerome, your post is exactly what I was hoping for, when I started post in here: make people work pursuing my HG. You are wrong, here and there, but really doesn't matter, you will find your way, eventually.
The only advice I can give you is find the core idea of the system, the "revolutionary" one, otherwise other already should have found it. My system has a particular progression that allows me to win, and to find that progression your brain must have a click, and find what's really important.
No matter how many indications and numbers I give you, or hints: without that you will not succeed. Keep trying, and be a-linear in your thinking. Try a never attempted road, be original.
My best wishes.
Scepticus, you should read with more attentions. I said my system can sustain itself for more than 260 spins, but I also said that that never occured, not even close.
The profit for each game is minimum of 1 piece. So, it is usually more. Is another information I gave previously. The vast majority of my game last very few spins, as any system with a quite large selection of numbers. The trick is recover when the game becomes longer.
Jerome, I said that doesn't matter what number you choose, if the total number played is correct. Sure, if you want to keep your bankroll low, you need to play chances, dozens and so on and so forth.
I play american roulette, with double zero (I now live in US), it is a little harder, but not really.
Jerome: I am from Italy, and I moved to US because I want my daughter to study here. She was very young when we moved, and Italy was in a very economical disaster.
As I said, playing the european wheel changes a little but you don't really notice in an average game. I had a trace in my first two years or so, then I found it no more relevant. I know my progression, there is not much calculus to do, and so I stopped. I play on machine, so I just remember the count when I start the game. When I reach a bigger number, I know I am in profit (cannot be easier). I usually start with 300 units, so I just keep tracking of that (you get it, right? when the counter show 302, I start a new game). When reach 500 or so, I go eat or do something else, and then start again at 300.
I have been scared at the beginning, because you always think the casinos have rigged games. Now time proved was a unjustified fear. When you have 8 people play at the same time, it is very hard find a number that make everyone lose. On the other hand, one day I had a guy close to me that was playing just number 14, with splits and street, and was playing big. He got the 14 hitting like 4 times in 7 spins, and walked away with 14000 dollars...
I don't play with $1 chips, as already said in other posts. I started with quarters, and took me time to have bankroll and confidence to go for more. I usually get 200 units a session, and I go for 2 or three session a day. Do the math.
Blue angel, you can call me Filippo, is my name. What is so special about my progression, or my system, is that is a winning one. My progression is nuclear science because I am the only one in this forum that got a bulletproof system. You can believe me or not, I don't care.
I enjoy seeing your perspective on my situation, but I love much more mine! I don't chase losses since 2011, when I created this system. I lost and won before, with other systems I created, and a lot before any kind of system crossed my life.
I don't need much hit to recover. My system allow me to play less numbers when I am close to profit, and more when I am moving away from it. That's the geniality of it. The average hit ratio is really on machine favor (1/60), so I don't need a very specific combination or luck to win.
I have many spins, many possible combinations, an adjustable progression (I mean adaptable) to reach my goal. Your warnings, as I said before, were already old 4 years ago...
Almost forgot. I wrote posts about it only here. Any other forum or users with similar content are not me. And sometimes I regret even to have started this one...