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#### Jesper

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##### A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« on: September 04, 2016, 11:38:45 AM »

This method gave me some winnings today.
It is not tested very much, and it can
like any method lose. I may change it later.

It is played on an AM-wheel (bv) with no HA.
The wheel has no HA on some bets, so we
must be carefully not bet other bets than no HA,
as we otherwise pay worse HA than a normal EU-Wheel. It will then be commission on wins plus a HA.

SO ONLY STRAIGHT UPS AND OUTSIDE BETS.

Every spin has 30 units a bet (a unit is 0.10).

We bet 10 units on each of two dozens.
We bet one  units each on nine single number
in the remaining dozen.

We bet half an unit on 0 and 00
(Do not use one on split as it pays less).

We are going to play until zero (0 (Not 00))
hits, and that should end the session.

If any of the 24 numbers in the dozen bet hit, we will not lose, and not win.

If a single hit we win 8 units. Due to
that zero pays back the dozen bet, we win
more if zero or double zero hit, despite
we have half the value bet (9 units).

There are three numbers which make us lose.
The loss is 30 units.

On a loss we move a  chip from any single
(except zeros) to zero.

As soon zero hit (and we got a miss) the session is over and we should be on plus. (we can stop on plus without any hit on zero, but it would be rare winning more than a few).

I have not yet faced no hit on zero before
all single numbers are moved. I will address that
problem later.

If zero delay and the hit rate is high
on the not covered number we can lose.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2016, 08:26:16 AM by Jesper »

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#### Jesper

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 11:51:45 AM »
This session was short. Zero hit twice, but not any miss. I stopped and will start over.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 12:06:21 PM »
Session hit zero after 35 spins. (Have not got a zero sleep yet).

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 12:16:46 PM »
Still zero comes fast. I do not want a sleeper too long, but it will come.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 01:06:18 PM »
This time zero hitting when just one single left.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 01:15:51 PM »
Yet a short session, few misses and a hot zero!

The HA should eat all winning if played on an ordinary AM-Wheel( Too many numbers bet for a wheel with HA).
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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 01:50:10 PM »
Got all single used and moved to zero. I could take the loss of 180 units (18 Euro), but I did not. I tried using the bets on one of the dozens, moving one to zero at any losing spin. It hit on zero.

I am not sure if this is a good decision allways. A loss of 180 units at that time should not be a suprise, we can not expect to win all sessions ever.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 09:02:50 PM »
What do you mean with"no HA"?

I thjnk the bet is not 30 units but 31  units. This means that on the dozens hits you lose 1 unit.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2016, 03:54:50 AM »
What do you mean with"no HA"?

I thjnk the bet is not 30 units but 31  units. This means that on the dozens hits you lose 1 unit.

10 on each of two dozen is 20, nine on the third dozen makes up 29 and 1/2 on 0 and 00 makes total 30 units.

On a hit on a single except zero the payout is 38 units (as no HA) which net 8 units.
On a hit on zero(s) the payout is 39 units 19 from zero(s) and 20 from the dozen (which is paid back) making a net of 9 units.

If a dozen wins it pays 30 and break even.

There is no house advantages on the bets, straight up pays 38 not 36. If zero hits we do not lose the outside bets, they are paid back. Anybody can test in fun mode free (no register needed).

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2016, 08:08:20 AM »
On the image you have 10 straight numbers on the 3th dozen.

I never heard about this kind of  roulette. What is the difference of two units on the split o/oo and one unit straight on0 and oo ?

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2016, 08:31:03 AM »
On the image you have 10 straight numbers on the 3th dozen.

I never heard about this kind of  roulette. What is the difference of two units on the split o/oo and one unit straight on0 and oo ?

Sorry it is a misstake on the pic, it should be 9 and I have change the pic.

The reason I do not use the split is the pay out, pls see picture.  a split pays 18-1 and a plein 37-1.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2016, 09:06:33 AM »
The payout of one unit on the spit is the same as one half unit on the straight numbers.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2016, 01:09:08 PM »
You are right, and I think it is recently changed. Still the odds are not the same for all bets, some has no house advantages and some has.

Like bet three units on a street, pays less than bet one unit on the three numbers. This I checked today.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2016, 08:27:15 AM »
If the rules can be changed, I do not trust such an online casino.

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##### Re: A method for no HA AM-wheel.
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2016, 03:36:42 PM »
On the image you have 10 straight numbers on the 3th dozen.

I never heard about this kind of  roulette. What is the difference of two units on the split o/oo and one unit straight on0 and oo ?

Sorry it is a misstake on the pic, it should be 9 and I have change the pic.

The reason I do not use the split is the pay out, pls see picture.  a split pays 18-1 and a plein 37-1.
If your casino pays odds of 17/1 on a split and 37/1 on a number it is a scam.
So stop playing on it.
I think you may have misunderstood the odds on offer- particularly on a two zero table.