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"Boom!" positive progression
« on: August 05, 2016, 10:52:05 AM »
Hello Forum Friends
with the title "Everything is already done"
Merit for original idea goes to Vic at BetSelection cc
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 10:52:30 AM »

The "boom" positive progression is intended to exploit the common happening of a location showing multiple times within a cycle.
This is entirely cycle-based, which means you should never deviate from the max. spin that closes it.
You assign the amount of units of a payout to face the cycle.
The basis is that you will re-invest the units won, divided by the number of spins left to cycle-end.
Example: You are betting a single number and get a hit at spin 15.

Cycle = 36
Hit at = 15
36 - 15 = 21
21 is the amount of spins left to sustain the bet.
How much to rise for those spins?
You rise by the result of payout divided by spins left.
In the case of a straight-up number, it is:
(36 * 1) / 21 = 1.71
So you add +1.71 units to your base bet for the rest of the cycle (tops).
1 + 1.71 = 2,71 units on the number now.
Shall you get another hit at -say- spin 23, your accounting will be:
36 - 23 = 13
13 spins to sustain the new bet.
(36 * 2.71) / 13 = 7,50 units on the number.
To be held for the next 13 spins tops.

Of course, there is a point in which you must take your wins, so it is advisable to take profits when on the plus, especially when playing several numbers this way at the same time.
At all times you know you are risking EXACTLY one payout of your base unit.
In the case of a single number it is 36 units, but in the event of having concatenated wins in the cycle, the ROI can rise handsomely.
This can be extrapolated to nice-paying locations such as splits or streets. Lower-paying locations do not offer enough for it to really go “boom!”, so you better stick to the higher-paying betting locations when considering this.

Regards.
Vic
 
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 10:54:03 AM »
example
random numbers:
4 35 9 36 15 4 32 36 35 1 10 13 7 12 26 8 5 7 22 12 7 10 36 26 5 25 20 33 16 28 35 16 25 11 4 25 20 taken from random.org now, bet let's say 16.

Initial bank: 36 units.
Initial bet size: 1 unit.

#Spin / Number / Bet / Balance

#1 - 4 - 1 - 36
#2 - 35 - 1 - 35
#3 - 9 - 1 - 34
#4 - 36 - 1 - 33
#5 - 15 - 1 - 32
#6 -  4 - 1 - 31
#7 - 32 - 1 - 30
#8 - 36 - 1 - 29
#9 - 35 - 1 - 28
#10 -  1 - 1 - 27
#11 - 10 - 1 - 26
#12 - 13 - 1 - 25
#13 -  7 - 1 - 24
#14 - 12 - 1 - 23
#15 - 26 - 1 - 22
#16 -  8 - 1 - 21
#17 -  5 - 1 - 20
#18 -  7 - 1 - 19
#19 - 22 - 1 - 18
#20 - 12 - 1 - 17
#21 -  7 - 1 - 16
#22 - 10 - 1 - 15
#23 - 36 - 1 - 14
#24 - 26 - 1 - 13
#25 -  5 - 1 - 12
#26 - 25 - 1 - 11
#27 - 20 - 1 - 10
#28 - 33 - 1 - 9
#29 - 16 - 1 - 8

This hit bring us +36 units (1 unit from investment + 35 units from payout).
We are at spin #29, so:
36 - 29 = 7 spins left.
Now we divide the units obtained by the spins left in the cycle:
36 / 7 = 5.14 units
And add them on top of the base bet:
1 + 5.14 = 6.14 units.
We continue betting 6.14 units per spin.
#30 - 28 - 6.14 - 43
#31 - 35 - 6.14 - 36.86
#32 - 16 - 6.14 - 30.72
Second hit.
(36 * 6.14) = 221.04
Accounting for the last spin's units layed:
30.72 - 6.14 = 24.58
Adding it to payout: 221.04 + 24.58 = 245.62
Final balance: 245.62 units.
Now you know why its name is "Boom!".

...Using casino money to create upward spikes in the balance can be quite rewarding to the session balance ;)
Vic
 
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 10:56:20 AM »
So I like EC bet
THe EC cycle is 2 spins. and it is gonna happen like parle and I do not want this
(you bet one you take win and added to your new bet) ... so I thinking to do it in 3 spins cycle.
and first bet of 2units , second bet =(half win + bet 2 u)  third bet =(half win + bet 2 u)
bet 2u- Win
bet 3u- Loss
bet 3u- Win

for single dozens or columns
cycle is 3 spins....and I thinking to do it like this.
Bet 1u win
bet 2u
bet 2u
bet 2u

for DStreet
cycle is 6 spins
bet 1u win
bet 2u
bet 2u
bet 2u
bet 2u
bet 2u

regards BETJACK
 
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2016, 01:53:06 PM »
Dang man awesome!

Now if we only had a formula to calculate required bankroll, like relative to the bet selection?
 

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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2016, 08:34:16 PM »
Thanks BetJack,
Very interesting.
In a way this cycle talk is relevant to my own recent research.

Among other things I focus on the different in cycles of different bets.
Take for example the even chances (Red black etc.) with a cycle of 2 spins and the corner bet with a cycle of 9 spins. (zero ignored for ease of calculations)
The chance of at least one hit in an EC cycle is 75%
The chance of at least one hit in a corner cycle is 69%
If betting with 1 unit (chip)
The possible profit in an ec cycle is 1 unit
The possible profit in a corner cycle is between 8 and 1 units.
And the differences go on and on.
By understanding the various differences one can create a system tailored to his own style/philosophy.

It may be irrelevant to this particular system, but I just provoked by the concept of cycles which I focus on right now...
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2016, 09:30:08 PM »
If one were to use this for some of the other bets, as per the above structure, I would assume the cycle would be like....

9 for corner bets?
12 for single streets?
18 for splits?

Would these be in line?
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2016, 09:38:50 PM »
If one were to use this for some of the other bets, as per the above structure, I would assume the cycle would be like....

9 for corner bets?
12 for single streets?
18 for splits?

Would these be in line?
Yes
 
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2016, 10:10:51 PM »
Batjack  I have no idea on which tigur you place your bets. What happens when you have no hit on more than 100 spins? See my graphs in "RNG Flatbet Kiss?
 

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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2016, 10:18:08 PM »
@Kav Thanks
 ... I'm glad you approve...
I like to find old treasures like this.
I am Trying  to successfully to polish them
to shine again.  :)

@dobbelsteen
It is a cycle based...
Cycle = 36
if no HIT  you stay at base bet...
and Start new cycle

BETJACK
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2016, 07:52:49 AM »
Betjack
I know a lot about systems ,betting selections. I enjoy to program systems in Excel and test the systems to learn more about the features. If you know the features then you can develop a strategy.This is the basic to judge objective  and compare different methods.With your describtion I can`t.
I have no notion what you mean with cycle based. Please explain me.In advance thanks.
 

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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2016, 10:19:15 AM »
@dobbelsteen
The "boom" positive progression is intended to exploit the common happening of a location showing multiple times within a cycle.
This is entirely cycle-based, which means you should never deviate from the max. spin that closes it.

Cycle = 36 spins for straight up number
if no WIN you stay at base bet... You do not chaase Looser bet  for more than 36 spins
You wish to bet "16" and start betting but 16 is not coming but you still betting on 16  and count your spins if you make it to 36 spin  and still no Win The cycle is over.. and stop betting. . when you start New Cycle You have to decide Which number you will bet.. and you start New cycle again for 36 spins  ...Increase your bet only when there is repetitive number..

unfortunately I can not explain it in plain English is not my native language

 
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2016, 07:23:28 AM »
There promoted incorrect calculation. As in the example we have won 7 units to the next round to play at the casino money, we do not need to split 36/7, but vice versa 7/36 = 0.19444. Only then we will play at the casino money. In the above example, we are playing with their own money, and even risking large sums!
Then the next cycle of 36 spins, we must bid each time 1 + 0,19 = 1.19 units.
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2016, 09:15:10 AM »
With the Pivot method the wager nummer is a repeater. The Pivot nummer can be used for the cycle system.
The bet for the next cycle is always an integer figure. Mathemetically there is no difference between a Pivot number and any others.
I am Dutch and my Engish nowedays is very poor.Most visitors of this site are from the different countries in Europ
 
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Re: "Boom!" positive progression
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 12:18:22 PM »
I have learned now how to hunt these BOOM!TM opportunities. I can tell when a number is partially or entirely eluding me and I know when I am facing a BOOM!TM opportunity every time it comes up.

Quite the nice addition to my aresenal since I play single numbers exclusively now.

Thanks Jack!

PS We should call you Jack BoomTM or how about Boom JackTM?

Make it go BOOM! Daddy!

https://youtu.be/J41BOLggWu8
https://youtu.be/b-T3bmKzeAo

"Daniel BOOM! was a man..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC3YLpm7GZc

Make it go BOOM! like dynamite!


SING IT! *\ :D /*

BOOM! Delay

Sometimes a BOOM! opportunity may appear early in a bet cycle where the earning increase doesn't seem worth it.  We can actually spin through a bit and recalculate for a better profit potential; e.g. a number hit outside of expectation on the 2nd spin of the 35 spin cycle which barely had any profit increase when divided by 33 and so I spun 8 more times and recalculated the original profit but divided by 25 and got the BOOM!

BOOM! Discounting

Let's say a BOOM! opportunity provides a 30 unit increase to the bet amount.  Instead of investing the full 30 units (and losing all that profit if it misses), we can choose to share half of it and increase our raise by 15 units instead.  Another calculation is to determine the full cost of the cycle and factor that in to the savings amount:

(Base Unit Amount*35)-(Raised Unit Amount*35) = Actual Profit

The Actual Profit is the true amount that we have to discount from to not incur a cost (or to lessen the cost) for our BOOM! work.
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