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Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« on: July 23, 2016, 02:01:52 PM »
After Reading Jespers topic being victim of robbory, i been thinking about saftey measurments when travelling abroad playing.

1) Take cab to casino and home to hotell.
2) Leave passport at the hotell in a bank-safe and have International ID-Card with me to the casino.
3) Have a stocking on the leg with cash, (majority of bankroll) and tiny amount in wallet, so if would be victim for robbery they would not get the majority of money.

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 03:00:51 PM »
4) I got prepaid Mastercard with gamblig Money which i would bring with me to pay cab with.
And maybe a sandwich and some water in the casino during the evning.
My original bank card i would not bring with me when going to the casino (it would be in bank-safe in hotell).
This way i would not end up in the same situation as Jesper who had to get funds transfer to him using a unknown Company to recive the Money.
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2016, 03:19:37 PM »
4) I got prepaid Mastercard with gamblig Money which i would bring with me to pay cab with.
And maybe a sandwich and some water in the casino during the evning.
My original bank card i would not bring with me when going to the casino (it would be in bank-safe in hotell).
This way i would not end up in the same situation as Jesper who had to get funds transfer to him using a unknown Company to recive the Money.

Who has ever stated I used an "unknown  company" transfer money? It was of course a well known bank. If you are rubbed on a street, there is a few people, the rubbers will use any means to get your pincode. In my case they did not have that time, as the street was not empty. Hide money in socks can cost a leg! Do not trust any cab, check them out.

This things happen very seldom, and happen everythere not just "abroad". Among for sure 2000 tourists I was probably the only that evening.

It is easy to be a target if you looks as you do not know where you are, a confident direction of the walk helps. Do not be drunk!.  I did not have too much money on that account connected to the debit card. An electronic device for using the bank and the passport was all the time in the safe. I had only 200 Euro cash.

They do hit you before they know about the money you carry, I were not looking very fat of money, playing normal at the casino exchanged 100 Euro to chips. I do not saw the robber at the casino, just a few at the roulette (richer than me). We should not overestimated the risk a tourist gambler face.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2016, 03:21:31 PM by Jesper »
 
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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 03:55:12 PM »
Well i can not play abroad winning back the expensives for flight ticket, hotell room, food - using 400 Euro as i would not play minimum tables.
When i play at home i take cab from home to casino and from casino home and it feel safe as i trusth Taxi Stockholm (name of cab Company in Sweden).
The likelehood being victim for robbory when taking cab outside casino and hotell is minimum.

The plan going abroad is using the following as game plan.
Will at least have 5K or above on me to make 500 Euro each night.
That is tursday evning, friday evning and saturday evning and sunday you travell home.

So one night i might fight and break even and win two nights, that would be 1K or better.
The flight ticket with hotell cost 350/400 Euro for one weekend trip and 200 Euro for expensives like food and spendig time in the city during day time - that is around 600 Euro.
And i use apartment room with kitchen, so i can keep low budget making own food/dinner and breakfast.

I am just testing this and have not alot of experience travelling and gambling.
But i understand that i can not play the minimum unit size to make the trip Worth it.
The win goal should be at least 1.5K where 500 Euro is cost for the weekend and 1K pure winnings.

And i caculate low, because if you want to become proffesional and start traveling and win Money to pay for apartment rent at home, food at home, bills at home you need to have larger bankroll around 10K and above with win targets around 20 to 30K for each trip.

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the rubbers will use any means to get your pincode.

It does not matter as i would be glad to give them my pincode to awoid more or unessery violence.
On the card you would have 60 Euro cab Money and 20 Euro for sandwich and water - that is a total of 80 Euro, (prepead credit card is not same as regular credit card) so they would be more then welcome to get pincode and my wallet.
My wallet would have 10 Euro with international ID card.

My passport and real bank card would be in a bank-safe in the hotell.

And the likelehood they would start to search my dick for money or a socket on my leg is minimum.
Where i will have 5K or above.

But if they observe me in casino and are guest there and see me with large bunch of Money, then they have to rob me outside the casino with security gurads and cameras or take a car and follow the cab to the hotell with security cameras and hotell staff and rob me outside the hotell or why not as in a action Movie stop the cab car with there own car and pin Point a gun to my head.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2016, 04:18:06 PM by Sputnik »
 
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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 11:32:44 AM »
I thousand times walked from casino to home, or to apartaments if abroad and never was atacked.
And i know that casino, where was Jesper. I 99,99% sure that if really was such accident, then it not related with casino at all. Simply guy was in bad place  in not good time - leave he 5 minutes earlier or later casino and  nothing will happend...
Theese guys which attacked not was similar to muslims ? :)
« Last Edit: July 24, 2016, 11:34:20 AM by Bebediktus »
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 12:14:44 PM »
It's often said that the presence of casinos attracts crime, but according to some research the conclusion isn't so cut and dried.

http://cad.sagepub.com/content/49/2/253.abstract

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The authors conclude that crime does not inevitably increase with the introduction of a casino into a community, but that the effects of casinos on crime appear to be related to a variety of variables which are only poorly understood.
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 01:43:48 PM »


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the rubbers will use any means to get your pincode.
Sputnik

Perhaps rubbing your back too on the way to hotel...

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On the card you would have 60 Euro cab Money and 20 Euro for sandwich and water - that is a total of 80 Euro...
Sputnik

80 Euros for sandwich and water?! For Gods shake!

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...And the likelehood they would start to search my dick for money or a socket on my leg is minimum...
Sputnik

You could say minimum is 10 reds in a row, but  not impossible rubbing the money out of your dick!

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...or why not as in a action Movie stop the cab car with there own car and pin Point a gun to my head.
Sputnik

Unless you were carrying a suitcase with 1,000,000 or more they wouldn't bother this way.

Have you thought about making a team and travelling from country to country?

Gambling your way to heaven...!
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2016, 02:16:37 PM »
In the Dutch casinos you can open an account for transferring large amouts
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2016, 02:55:21 PM »
I have read that you can only carry 10K between different countries. If you exceed that amount , you must fill out a form and accounting for customs and pay a fee.

Also know that all profits from gambling is tax -free in Europe.

So what happens if you have more than 10K I do not know , but know that you can buy gold bullion and have it sent to your home .
Then take the 20 % customs fee.
Perhaps it is the easiest and cheapest way aff transfer larger sums of money.
Package is 're insured by the company you are buying gold from.
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 03:04:51 PM »
I have read that you can only carry 10K between different countries. If you exceed that amount , you must fill out a form and accounting for customs and pay a fee.

Also know that all profits from gambling is tax -free in Europe.

So what happens if you have more than 10K I do not know , but know that you can buy gold bullion and have it sent to your home .
Then take the 20 % customs fee.
Perhaps it is the easiest and cheapest way aff transfer larger sums of money.
Package is 're insured by the company you are buying gold from.

Customs are the last thing on my mind when travelling abroad because I've the most of the money in my accounts, not in cash.
The real challenge is the casino, you have your way, I have mine, let's say you are not going well but I do, then what should you do?
Return home or play with my method?
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 04:49:14 PM »
I have read that you can only carry 10K between different countries. If you exceed that amount , you must fill out a form and accounting for customs and pay a fee.
You also... When you declare more - you nothing must pay...
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Also know that all profits from gambling is tax - free in Europe.
Not good know   - if you change more, than some amount - usually they inform tax Inspectorate.

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So what happens if you have more than 10K I do not know
Of course if never was such case from where to know...
You have few options - risk and put them somewhere if nobody will stopp you and not ask - all good , if will find - then can be many things - till jail if find very much.

Can simply declarate , or put to your card , if put to card  - then something pay and again can be  questtions with tax Inspectorate, the same if you declare.

Really is only problem - tax , what can be  about 20 % from sum or sometimes even more.

Say in Belorussia every change take from you 4%

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Customs are the last thing on my mind when travelling abroad because I've the most of the money in my accounts, not in cash.
That nothing change if tax inspector will catch you , - you still must pay tax . If not catch then all is good.

Here all depends - bank give informattion to tax inspecttion....or not and from which sum.

Looks for me guys, that you never were in situattion, when you must think about that :) .......
 

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Re: Travelling abroad - saftey measurments
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 05:07:15 PM »
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That nothing change if tax inspector will catch you , - you still must pay tax . If not catch then all is good.

Here all depends - bank give informattion to tax inspecttion....or not and from which sum.

Looks for me guys, that you never were in situattion, when you must think about that :) .......

What are you talking about?

I said I 've money on debit cards, not credit cards and not Greek banks, the Greek banks became a "snitch" for tax office but since I don't use them no problem for me.

Wherever I'm I can buy or withdraw money from my cards, so what tax inspector and customs are you blathering about?!
 

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 05:23:14 PM »

What are you talking about?

I said I 've money on debit cards, not credit cards and not Greek banks, the Greek banks became a "snitch" for tax office but since I don't use them no problem for me.

Wherever I'm I can buy or withdraw money from my cards, so what tax inspector and customs are you blathering about?!
Angel then do such thing when you will win 500 000 put them to your card and i will see how any tax inspector will not pay to that attenttion :)
 

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 05:24:45 PM »
Simply guys i understand that you not had such problems, I had ...

Here can be diferent laws in countries , but usually even if you will win in lotery - you pay tax....
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2016, 05:31:38 PM »
Simply guys i understand that you not had such problems, I had ...

Here can be diferent laws in countries , but usually even if you will win in lotery - you pay tax....

When I'm done with a country I'm transfering most of the profit in my accounts before I move on to another country.
My banks don't give me trouble, there are just a medium to use my money safely.
Believe me there are many ways to transfer the money safely and discretely in your accounts...