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purpose of this forum?
« on: July 14, 2016, 09:04:04 AM »
 I found this place thru Google.  It says roulette forum. So l came here in order to use this place as one. For my surprise nobody speaks about roulette here besides Mr.Bebedictus.  And rest of you??? What do you guys speak about?
 For information of confused ones there are undeniable roulette facts:
 1. Roulette game happens on the wheel with the help of the ball.
2. Roulette betting table is just a place where money exchange happen.
3. It's extremely stupid to look betting table and ignoring exact place where game itself happens.
4. There is house edge ( unfair payout set by provider of the game ).
5. Denial or lack of comprehension of the HE represent itself as severe degree of ignorance called " gambler fallacy".
6. Gambler behaviour is an unreasonable behavior of individual who actively deny presence of the HE in the game of choice.

 I came here to call atention of this community to the facts mentioned above and would like to know your opinions about it. Please feel free to answer. I wellcome any opinions or discussion about my post in its entirety or statement by statement.


 
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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2016, 09:57:32 AM »
Hello Caleb,

Next time you dress up as a rabbi, be sure not to order the pork sausages.

Cheers.
 
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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2016, 10:43:23 AM »
Hello Caleb,

Next time you dress up as a rabbi, be sure not to order the pork sausages.

Cheers.
l apreciate that you confused me with probably best player in the world. It means what lm doing is right.
 My name is Sereja. Nice to meet you. Caleb was my benefactor ( mentor ) for some time. I'm not sure if l have some juish legacy ( who can be sure where their grannies went), but l find your answer politically abusive.
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2016, 11:30:54 AM »
MrPerfect,

1. I don't care at all who is a good player or a bad player. I don't care at all who makes money or loses money on roulette. I only care what someone has to share with his posts. Everything else is absolutely irrelevant.

2. Most (not all) "advantage players" share nothing of value in forums. They only hint on their superiority and attack the non AP and their methods.

If you understand 1 and 2 then you can understand that what I find problematic is the "purpose" and value of your participation.
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2016, 02:46:01 PM »
MrPerfect,

1. I don't care at all who is a good player or a bad player. I don't care at all who makes money or loses money on roulette. I only care what someone has to share with his posts. Everything else is absolutely irrelevant.

2. Most (not all) "advantage players" share nothing of value in forums. They only hint on their superiority and attack the non AP and their methods.

If you understand 1 and 2 then you can understand that what I find problematic is the "purpose" and value of your participation.
l sencerely not know if there gonna be any value for my participation  in this forum.
 My purpose is to study game of roulette for profit. I'm looking for individuals not communities.  If l find at least 1 person whom l would be able to teach something here, l will be happy.
  So far l have in my possesion:
1. Knolidge what to do
2. Tools how to achieve it.
 What l need? It's people who gonna upply my knolidge with my tools in order study different situations wich may be present in the game and finding out how to deal with them optimally( maximum profit for minimum effor).
  People should be easy learning and hardworking non gamblers. I would prefer someone who hates the game and will be empowered by revenge,  then some cretin who see the game as entertainment. 
 I'm willing to spend my time and effort to teach situable individuals. I do not work for free or play for free, however conditions l offer for my teachings are favorable. For example, unable to lern-no pay. I'm willing to bet my ability to teach in order to be payed for my time.
 Am l wellcome here?
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2016, 04:07:14 PM »
sereja

If you are going to charge for your services you are not welcome in the forum . Even Caleb doesn't charge for his services  and he doesn't claim to be the best player in the world  so your hero- worship is misplaced .  Caleb hero - worships someone else.
Perhaps you could discuss with  Harry J about Caleb's method -  he has a copy of his book .
And didn't you say that the kavoura's bet was valid ?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2016, 04:10:17 PM by scepticus »
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2016, 04:17:40 PM »
sereja

If you are going to charge for your services you are not welcome in the forum . Even Caleb doesn't charge for his services  and he doesn't claim to be the best player in the world  so your hero- worship is misplaced .  Caleb hero - worships someone else.
Perhaps you could discuss with  Harry J about Caleb's method -  he has a copy of his book .
Caleb helped me a lot. According to his own words, l surpassed his book a bit already.
 I do around 130 chips/ hour on average in casino. Sometimes l rase by bet 3-4 times from initial value. To prepare at least one successful player l will spend much more money ( in time equivalent ) then lm going to charge. My tools are custom built,  you or anyone else simply will no find any equivalent for any money. lf similar exists it is not for sell. I wouldn't give away as well, if l had a team.
 It will be decision of everyone individually.
1. Pay or not to pay for my vb tutoring.
2. Buy or not my tools and asistance.
 I ask money at the end of persons study, this money should be won by the person. Is it wrong?
 l just came here to give a chance to someone whow need it. Most people need nothing,l assept it.
 
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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2016, 07:44:23 PM »
 So what is your  idea of VB ? Biased Wheels ?
What kind of tools do you have  ? Maths based ? Computer ?
How long do you take to justify an Edge ?
Do you mean that you win 130 chips per hour ?
Do you also "  fly beneath the radar " ?
I am not surprised that you surpassed Caleb's work . I have said before that his views are simplistic .
You said that kav had a good idea but he doesn't do VB. So you admit that those who don't use VB can also win and yet say that we cannot ? You are contradicting yourself .
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2016, 08:43:42 PM »
 Scepticus,  do not mix things.
 Calebs book is great, but very complex, needs to be studied line by line and chapter by chapter.
 Vb is a skill based . Skill should be developed.
 Problem with it that there is a lot of desinformation. You can take any book of vb, they all try to mislead. No one speak what matters. Its on the purpose.
 I play short sessions. 130 chips per hour is an average estimate of my true edge based on plane betting same amount per spin. I do not do so. I abuse. It doesn't take long to realise edge, but may be taking 1- 2 shifts of dealer on new wheel ( to wait good opportunity. 
 Cavuras bet could be a good thing if numbers you bet are due for genuine reasons. Like bias numbers or better numbers wich are bias and helped a bit by vb. This is exactly how l use it. There is optimal betting strategy called " klotz criteria" , it calculate's your bet the way wich mimics kavuras bet. Idea is to have an advantage and be able to hold it. Obtaining advantage is relatively easy, holding it require to observe some spins when change is detected, or have a friend to control timings. Alternatively person may get my rc, wich does it ( that's why it have been created).

 Win can anyone even by luck alone. But on skill you can rely to pay your bills. Lady luck is not that reliable.
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2016, 11:10:51 PM »
An advantage does not go away so no need to hold it " when change is detected " . What you describe is what mathematicians call variance.
So your great insight is worthless - just like Caleb's.
Go peddle your bull**** elsewhere  !
 

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Re: purpose of this forum?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 12:00:53 AM »
An advantage does not go away so no need to hold it " when change is detected " . What you describe is what mathematicians call variance.
So your great insight is worthless - just like Caleb's.
Go peddle your bull**** elsewhere  !
Scepticus. I came look for these who wanna work, not for these who wanna tolk. You are from second category. I'm interested in the first only.
 If you have wish to tolk, argue, there are planty of people with whom you can do it. I'm simply not interested.