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mr j

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Another thing that bugs Ken
« on: June 26, 2016, 03:29:17 PM »
Over at that RF board, there is a certain member that does a ton of testing and posts his charts. Who it is, is not important. (he is a very nice guy!!) Really, my point can be about anyone. I see this 14/16 games won (as an example).

Is he leaving something out? Of course he is and *YET* *AGAIN*, its roulette message board DENIAL.

Every persons BR walking into the casino will most likely be different. You need to know up front, at what point do I leave while losing? During testing, everything is in units but those units DO represent what your BR is and/or will be, correct? -20 units could be -$20 or -$2,000 or -$100 etc.

Continuing, I would ask him, what are YOUR personal unit sizes? He would never answer (big surprise).

My point, lets say your BR is $700. During testing, it drops to -$750 but shoots back up to +$400 (session/game is over). He and the other denial goofs will count this as a WINNING session. (WTF?)

If it was an actual casino playing situation, you would of LOST and went home. Its a losing session, you didn't win s**t, sorry. Yet again, the denial guys see the 14/16 games won and end up creaming their shorts.

Ken


 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2016, 03:35:45 PM »
Ya its dishonest to do that without updating the balance requirement.
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2016, 03:40:34 PM »
Ya its dishonest to do that without updating the balance requirement.

I realize, the results for THAT chart may be different for various bettors. If your BR limit is $700, you lost.

If your BR limit is $900, you won that particular game. If the chart NEVER dipped even a notch, everybody won, regardless of BR size.

Ken
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2016, 03:59:12 PM »
First of all: It is not polite to move to another forum and bash people from there. Even if bashing is your only aim to post.

second: It is very very unpolite not to tell their names. That is what masters did to their slaves.

third: Ignatus always says with what he is betting: Normally 5$-Chip-size

forth: Ignatus always tells that he is "testing". Therefore as long he doesn´t get over the table-limits he is doing nothing wrong. Your basic BR should be three times the greatest drawdown during tests.

Ignoring these facts makes you troll as troll can be

Take your hate and anger and move away
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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2016, 04:30:57 PM »
First of all: It is not polite to move to another forum and bash people from there. Even if bashing is your only aim to post.

second: It is very very unpolite not to tell their names. That is what masters did to their slaves.

third: Ignatus always says with what he is betting: Normally 5$-Chip-size

forth: Ignatus always tells that he is "testing". Therefore as long he doesn´t get over the table-limits he is doing nothing wrong. Your basic BR should be three times the greatest drawdown during tests.

Ignoring these facts makes you troll as troll can be

Take your hate and anger and move [removed]

 It is POLITE to not name the person (but you did). That was quite rude of you and I feel you owe him an apology...soon!!!

"Bashing"? If something is off key, tough s**t, I'll call you out on it. If you dont like it, bye bye, nobody cares. The way he should do the charts....post the results after "X" number of spins and do NOT label it a win or a loss. A win for who? A loss for who? Its not one size fits all. If you knew anything regarding this game (and testing), you would know that and you would save me time trying to TEACH you.

I'm bored, learn or leave I say to you. Peoples unit sizes will all be different. Would you possibly disagree with that? (rofl). Here is a goofy example.....my BR is 8K. I'm testing xxx method. It dropped to -7K but in the end, it made a profit. Can you say, *YOU* would of come out ahead for that session?

The denial goofs WILL SAY, yep, another awesome win!! Learn or leave please.

Ken
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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2016, 04:49:01 PM »
Image result for people with denial
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2016, 05:10:23 PM »
The first sign of a roulette forum's path towards its own destruction really is  visible in this thread, think how often this has been repeated. I think that the phenomenon is as old as the roulette forums. Let us deal with roulette and not our egos.
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2016, 05:22:19 PM »
The first sign of a roulette forum's path towards its own destruction really is  visible in this thread, think how often this has been repeated. I think that the phenomenon is as old as the roulette forums. Let us deal with roulette and not our egos.

My first post was spot on, no arguing required. Reyth made a polite comment. After that, the s**t hit the fan, again.

A person can disagree with me without the ATTACKS. I think Kav is pretty good at disagreeing without losing his cool, I'm impressed with that.

Ken
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2016, 06:38:09 PM »

My first post was spot on, no arguing required. Reyth made a polite comment. After that, the s**t hit the fan, again.

A person can disagree with me without the ATTACKS. I think Kav is pretty good at disagreeing without losing his cool, I'm impressed with that.

Ken

Your first post spot on .. What?
Reyth and you were wrong about the way ignatus makes his examples.
You attack people where they cannot react, thats worse. Your the attacker not me.
I´m not losing my cool, you lost it some time ago.
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2016, 06:44:47 PM »
Mr J,

I understand that you are probably (no pun intended) disappointed by various posts and members over all your years in the forums. But you should understand that pointing fingers to others and showing no respect will in return bring bring some pointing and attacks to you.

The solution is IMO to think and post in a positive manner. Encouraging people on the "right" path instead of wasting time attacking those who in your opinion are on the "wrong" path.

We are all grown ups here, and there are other members who think about themselves as highly as you think about yourself. So trying to undervalue them will eventually result in conflict.

Let's keep it positive. Tell us how you win. Or just share a little part of your thinking or strategy. That would be interesting.

(Btw, I find Ignatus simple systems very interesting, without looking at the stats.)
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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2016, 06:49:20 PM »

My first post was spot on, no arguing required. Reyth made a polite comment. After that, the s**t hit the fan, again.

A person can disagree with me without the ATTACKS. I think Kav is pretty good at disagreeing without losing his cool, I'm impressed with that.

Ken

Your first post spot on .. What?
Reyth and you were wrong about the way ignatus makes his examples.
You attack people where they cannot react, thats worse. Your the attacker not me.
I´m not losing my cool, you lost it some time ago.

I'm 100% correct, he's doing it wrong ONLY in title. You cannot label it a win or a loss. What about my example for you (or anyone?) >> My BR is 8K. I'm testing xxx method. It dropped to -7K but in the end, it made a profit. I can say it won. Can you say, *YOU* would of come out ahead for that session/game based on what YOU are willing to lose (BR). YES or NO?

Ken
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2016, 06:58:15 PM »
Mr J,

I understand that you are probably (no pun intended) disappointed by various posts and members over all your years in the forums. But you should understand that pointing fingers to others and showing no respect will in return bring bring some pointing and attacks to you.

The solution is IMO to think and post in a positive manner. Encouraging people on the "right" path instead of wasting time attacking those who in your opinion are on the "wrong" path.

We are all grown ups here, and there are other members who think about themselves as highly as you think about yourself. So trying to undervalue them will eventually result in conflict.

Let's keep it positive. Tell us how you win. Or just share a little part of your thinking or strategy. That would be interesting.

(Btw, I find Ignatus simple systems very interesting, without looking at the stats.)

...and I did say, he is a very nice guy (Ignatus). "Wrong path" comments?

A person can learn MUCH MORE from mistakes compared to...getting lucky and a feeling of THINKING they are really on to something. If a person posts the BEST EVER SYSTEM....playing a Marty. It is my (and yours) responsibility to politely point out...."hey Bob, you're nuts and you'll lose in the long term" (lol)

Do you have the right to play the outside with/without a Marty? Of course you do, its not my money you borrowed in order to play.

Ken

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2016, 07:18:43 PM »
I'm 100% correct, he's doing it wrong ONLY in title. You cannot label it a win or a loss. What about my example for you (or anyone?) >> My BR is 8K. I'm testing xxx method. It dropped to -7K but in the end, it made a profit. I can say it won. Can you say, *YOU* would of come out ahead for that session/game based on what YOU are willing to lose (BR). YES or NO?

Ken

He takes a betselection and tests it and watches the results. His starting-BR is mostly  0 Units.
So everybody can easily see what ups and downs are produced.

If you wouldn´t think that all people are stupid you would give them the credit to know that it is a small sample-size and no proof of guarantee.

So your example of BR of 7k or 8k doesn´t matter. It´s a virtual test with a virtual result.
You should learn the meaning of virtuel and understand why it is used for tests.

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2016, 07:24:49 PM »
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Come on Kav, "hell" is a religious word? And if there is a reference to any religion it is a reference to all religions.
"Go to Hell" is common Phrase Like the *fu...peep*-word that you can hear in every sentence in America and England.
 

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Re: Another thing that bugs Ken
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2016, 07:28:38 PM »
@ MR.j  Till now I have no idea of your knowledge about the roulette game. I can not find a positive reply from you. What is your method to try to beat the roulette. I do not ask you to beat the HE. No system can do it.

My experience is, that only a good system, betting selection and a strategy can beat the casino on average.

Every system has the feature to finish a  short run session with a profit.It is very easy to prve this statement with a simulation program.