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Questions and Answers / Re: Question for AP Players
« Last post by MrPerfect. on October 17, 2017, 03:05:47 PM »
Is it in 6k spins or in 16M? In 6k it's abusive money... no one have seen such in sentures,  if it's in 16M , then it's a loss.
    I gess there is misunderstanding in your explanation. 
   What would help is to specify sample size for wich counting is done and how many times each number hit. That will display  everything clearly.
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Roulette Systems / Re: The Bomb Shelter
« Last post by Reyth on October 17, 2017, 03:05:22 PM »
Ya I usually trash a system within days.  I've been playing this one for almost 2 months.  There is ALOT of stumbling around from beginning to end but one thing has remained consistent: the HS Ratio.  It is the very key to success.  It gives me the following invaluable advantages:

1) The discipline not to chase short-term hot numbers
2) The knowledge of exactly when to switch selections

It works with every possible bet selection, even DZ & EC.  I have been trying to think of some way to increase the earning power; I will be working on such things once I hit 13300 BU.
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Questions and Answers / Re: Question for AP Players
« Last post by Reyth on October 17, 2017, 02:57:48 PM »
To me when I see 164 hits above expectation, I see money.
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Visual Ballistics / How l became Advantage player questions
« Last post by LiveRouletteOnlinePlayer on October 17, 2017, 01:29:12 PM »

With what amount of money do you start playing, do you have a run of a percentage of the amount of money you want to win or you just play for a certain time and finish when the time limit is reached.
If you play around 5-6 numbers then whether the numbers are individual numbers roulette wheel via whether the numbers for example number and its neighbor numbers are in either case roulette wheel or whether 5-6 numbers 5-6 pocket wheel sector roulette wheel?
Do you play progression bets or flat bets?
Do you use online casino roulette when playing a dealer signature or just collected wheel information spins .etc
MrPerfect  thanks in advance for replies this is a really interesting thread
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Questions and Answers / Re: Question for AP Players
« Last post by MrPerfect. on October 17, 2017, 12:55:51 PM »
Reyth, lm confused beyond my capabilities to understand. 
   There are levels of abstraction that are conventional: average , std, chi- square,  level of confidence  ( chance of randomness)... 
   There are not " conventional " ones like coefficient of stability, skips/ repetitive hits likehood...ets.
   We need these to determine how likely phenomenon that we observe is to repeat itself in play. It all boils down to the correlation and stability of correlation, if you wish " index of correlation coefficient "... all of these are valid math tools that show how likely and stable is phenomenon that we observe.
       In the nutshell,  we have to have a " trigger" that says " bet there when..." and it should be statistically significant.  If not, what we observe are just flick of fluctuations that we cannot predict,  be it rng or  real wheel.
      Naturally we are interested only on phenomenon that is consistent and predictable. ....  if idea is to make money of cause....
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Roulette Systems / Re: The Bomb Shelter
« Last post by Jake007 on October 17, 2017, 08:10:46 AM »
This is absolutely incredible! Its too bad it is 1am here and my eyes and brain can no longer absorb all of this information :) Congrats though... this is awesome work you are doing.

I believe this could be adapted to others like playing corners instead of DS... possibly quicker growth? Anyhow, this is similar to how I play my main system using a hot corner, except without computers or calculations. Ive yet to fail over the long term, Im way up, and if I do lose my B/R Im still well up. Hopefully when I get to reread your work it will make far more sense and I can adapt it to the way I play or... just starting playing DS from now on :)

Thank you Reyth for all of your hard work. All of your youtube videos too.
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Visual Ballistics / Re: How l became Advantage player
« Last post by MrPerfect. on October 17, 2017, 04:00:20 AM »
 Every situation is different.... but on average ...l gess 5-6.
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Reyth on October 17, 2017, 12:33:02 AM »
Interesting thought because Duncan said he sometimes bets both the DZ's & CL's together.  In DZ 2, two of the four Reds/Blacks are covered that are in CL 2 & 3.  Just thought I would post this. :)

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Randomness is behaving with 3 ways ...
It series results , it is mixing results and it is making cross combinations.( it reminds you of something?)
In other words it can make big imbalances at a point it can make big balances at a point and it can make balances and imbalances at other point.

Your bet must be able to TRAP these 3 behaviors quickly enough with more winners than losers.
The magical thing with the bet is that it does that completely mechanical ... completely automatic.... because when the behavior changes... the triggers are following these changes...

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His logo describes the pattern that the bet traps.

There are 2 kind of patterns to happen
1) AAAA or BBBB Series
    ABAB or BABA  Mixing

2) AABB or BBAA Cross
    ABBA or BAAB Combinations

The bet has triggers that traps the 2nd pattern.

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( I repeat by betting 2 doz or 2 col or even both).The phenomenon of RRCC-CCRR or RCCR-CRRC was happening all the time in my papers of tracking.( After the triggers)

RRCC <=== Each of these ===> SAME SAME OPPOSITE OPPOSITE
AABB  <=== Cross Combination
CCRR <=== have two of each ===> OPPOSITE OPPOSITE SAME SAME
BBAA
RCCR <=== element in a ===> SAME OPPOSITE OPPOSITE SAME
ABBA <=== Cross Combination
CRRC <=== series of 4. ===> OPPOSITE SAME SAME OPPOSITE
BAAB

So we know that A/B = R/C now.  The triggers have to trap Cross Combinations which means the sequence CANNOT be a series or chop:

The ACETF logo means 13223; his logo describes the pattern that the bet traps.
 
13223
-CCRC ???
 


This is columns betting.  Why is each sample a different width? (6,8,5,6,6)

I found out that there are 16 possible combinations of C/R:

CCCC
CCCR
CCRC
CCRR
CRCC
CRCR
CRRC
CRRR
RCCC
RCCR
RCRC
RCRR
RRCC
RRCR
RRRC
RRRR

Of which we play the four bolded.  What possible trigger can be created to trap only these four patterns?  Why would any trigger make any of these four patterns more likely than the others?

Most certainly they can be reduced to:

CC,CR,RC,RR

But that doesn't exclude any of the other combinations.

CCR, CRR, RCC, RRC

Breaks it down of course to a 50-50 shot.

What intrigues me about this is the "64 partners"; 64/16 = 4.  If we take 4 sets of these it should yield 256 unique combinations of which we will play 64.

CCCC   CCCC   CCCC   CCCC
CCCR   CCCR   CCCR   CCCR
CCRC   CCRC   CCRC   CCRC
CCRR   CCRR   CCRR   CCRR
CRCC   CRCC   CRCC   CRCC
CRCR   CRCR   CRCR   CRCR
CRRC   CRRC   CRRC   CRRC
CRRR   CRRR   CRRR   CRRR
RCCC   RCCC   RCCC   RCCC
RCCR   RCCR   RCCR   RCCR
RCRC   RCRC   RCRC   RCRC
RCRR   RCRR   RCRR   RCRR
RRCC   RRCC   RRCC   RRCC
RRCR   RRCR   RRCR   RRCR
RRRC   RRRC   RRRC   RRRC
RRRR   RRRR   RRRR   RRRR
 
We could chart every series of 16 bets but I don't see what advantage that could possibly give us.

Hmmm...  Now if in say every 16 spins sequence there very probably MUST be one of these patterns, THAT could be valuable.

Lets do 16 spins:

3223111121322122
-CRCCRRRCCCCRCCR

CRCCRRRCCCCRCCR

Notice in the first sample, the last row only has 5 bets instead of 6?

Notice in the 4th sample, the last two rows only have 5 bets instead of 6?

The 64 trusties of him is a clue and he speaks about his triggers.
The betting spin is the 6th and the triggers are 4 ( 64 trusties)
I will say one more.... in almost all pages he speaks about Reds and Blacks ...Think about that.
LOOKING the 6th... betting every spin.

This idea of "bet within a bet" relates to COLORS to determine one of the columns to bet where the other column would be determined by the R/C triggers. 

CRCCRR <=== how is this a trigger for anything?

Also, its clear from the written text that he did not write these wins moving vertically down the sheet but horizontally.

I think in every spin sample we should chart the columns 123 but ALSO chart the colors RBR and put them both together like:

123
RBR

for analysis.

231131 = CCRCC
BRBRBB = CCCCR

LOL.  Ok this is plain as day:

R*CRrCcR

He starts betting with R as the trigger and bets C (its opposite) and wins.  He then bets R (its opposite)and wins.  He then bets C (its opposite) and loses!  He then bets C (its opposite) and wins.  He then bets R (its opposite) and loses!  He then bets R (its opposite) and wins.

He is clearly betting the opposite of the last result, using the 6th result back as the first bet.

Each row is a separate session for some reason however.

C*RrCccc

C bets R, R bets C, R bets C, C bets R, C bets R, C bets R -- always the opposite of the last result.

C*RCRrrC

C bets R, R bets C, C bets R, R bets C, R bets C, R bets C

C*cRrCR

C bets R, C bets R, R bets C, R bets C, C bets R

Now lets use a cohesive spin history from the RNG:

2232223=RCCRRC
BBRBBRR=RCCRCR

So:

R*

We are betting for/against 2B.  In this case CHANGE and so CL 1 & 3.

We get 1R and win.

R*C

So now REPEAT which is CL2 & CL1 to cover our out for Black.

We get 2B and win.

R*CR

So now CHANGE which is CL 1 & 3.

We get 1B and win.

R*CRC

So now REPEAT which is CL2 & CL1.

We get 1R and win.

R*CRCR

So now CHANGE which is CL1 & CL3.

We get 1R and win.

R*CRCRC

And so our final bet is for REPEAT which is CL2 & CL1.

We get 3B and win.

R*CRCRCR

Wow 100% wins.  So why would this even work if it does?

1) We use the 6th spin back as our "standard" for the next 6 spins
2) We expect that streaks of C or R of this 6th back result will NOT happen in the majority of the next 6 spins

In concrete terms, we are saying that 2nd Column, Black (CL1) will not successively CHOP (333333) NOR successively STREAK (221211) but will produce patterns that MUST alternate between CHOP & STREAK (323132).

So:

We are betting that a particular column will not be exclusively hit nor completely excluded over the next 6 spins.

This is why Joon says there must be balance.  Sequences of 333333 (CL3 exclusively included) & 121212 (CL3 exclusively excluded) are unbalanced and rarer than balanced sequences like 323132.

We are betting against prolonged streaks in a single column (streaks of hitting and streaks of not hitting).

1.2.1.1.1.3
RBBRRB

In this case we DID have some streaking but it was on our "color insurance" column (CL1) which saves the day in both cases (C or R) because we are always betting on CL1 and either CL2 or CL3.

So that's why its against a PARTICULAR column streaking; i.e. specifically related to the 6th back number where we "stake our ground".

Regarding his results being a "loss" because he is betting 2CL's:

The orange are W the not colored are L

121 bets
73 W
48 L
+25

These results are taken after the 1 trigger... the other triggers are winning as well.
And its only Column Betting.
In the results the repeting Col ( win) is not included....

He must be parlaying his results just like in the Boffin(?) bet: 1W, 1 Parlay

So:

Code: [Select]
WW <=== +3
WL -3
W <=== no loss no parlay +1
WL -3
WW <=== +3
WL -3
WL -3
WL -3
WW <=== +3

WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WL -3
WL -3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3

WL -3
WL -3
WL -3
WL -3
WW <=== +3
WL -3
WW <=== +3

WL -3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WL -3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
W  <=== no loss no parlay +1

WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WL -3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WW <=== +3
WL -3
WW <=== +3

27 parlays +81
2 single wins +2
16 direct losses -48
+35 for the session

Test_Demo

Maybe I am doing something right?

Trigger 1: Bet OPPOSITE of the last result, starting with the 6th bet back's result

This is designed to trap a PARTICULAR pattern.  The possibilities are:

R ===> we look for CRCRCR <=== these are
C ===> we look for RCRCRC <=== Mixed Results

Trigger 2: Bet SAME of the last result??

R ===> RRRRRR <=== these are
C ===> CCCCCC <=== Series Results

Trigger 3: Bet SAME,OPPOSITE of the last result??

R ===> RCCRRC <=== This is Cross Combination (beginning SAME)

RCCR, CCRR, CRRC all contained in that sequence!
Missing: RRCC

C ===> CRRCCR <=== This is Cross Combination (beginning SAME)

CRRC, RRCC, RCCR
Missing: CCRR

Trigger 4: Bet OPPOSITE,SAME of the last result??

R ===> CCRRCC <=== This is Cross Combination (beginning OPPOSITE)

CCRR, RRCC, CRRC
Missing: RCCR

C ===> RRCCRR <=== This is Cross Combination (beginning OPPOSITE)

RRCC, RCCR, CCRR,
Missing: CRRC

It is now OBVIOUS to me how the triggers are constructed.  We go back 6 spins and then examine the series that we have obtained since then -- THAT determines WHICH trigger we use.

The $3M question is: HOW DO WE LOOK AT A SEQUENCE OF 6 TO DETERMINE WHICH TRIGGER IS THE BEST?

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Randomness is behaving with 3 ways ...
It series results , it is mixing results and it is making cross combinations.( it reminds you of something?)
In other words it can make big imbalances at a point it can make big balances at a point and it can make balances and imbalances at other point.

Your bet must be able to TRAP these 3 behaviors quickly enough with more winners than losers.
The magical thing with the bet is that it does that completely mechanical ... completely automatic.... because when the behavior changes... the triggers are following these changes...

So clearly we want to follow what the sequence of 6 is showing us.  Its also clear that we  must trap ALL of the behaviors, not JUST Cross Combinations.
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by jerome26b on October 17, 2017, 12:12:32 AM »
Most people probably won't find the final form of the CWB/ACETF, but there are many many clues that can lead you to having a slight edge on the game. When you are playing this Jerome you probably have noticed that "repeaters" play a major role on your win/loss ratio. That's why you are bringing up DrTalos again.

And why it recovers it the simple fact that Roulette needs balance, after short term imbalances the game eventually always balances itself again and yes it can take many many spins but it will and you guys know that.
don't you think both systems are joining at some point ? after so many investigations i'm believing the path to a winning system is very thin and i don't think there's so many of them. Finding the weakness of the game is leading you to the path and there's no other viable in my opinion.  I mean not involving thousands of $ expositions or going to AP side.

jerome
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Visual Ballistics / Re: How l became Advantage player
« Last post by Scarface on October 17, 2017, 12:10:15 AM »
Mr Perfect, how many numbers do you play on average?
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