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Mr Perfect do you want to watch a public demo?
Roulette Systems / Re: System DKP
« Last post by dobbelsteen on Today at 09:04:13 AM »

All these systems are large number bet systems. That means  that they all will loose after about 200 spins.In the short run every thing is possible. Here the research results of the 26 number bet with 6 units. The DTOP is about 120 spins. The positive 100 spins  samples are rare..

I agree with MrPerfect.
United systems can not create a HG. United systems are very beautiful, but do not expect they can make you a successful player.Simple systems with a simple strategy has the preference. 
Roulette Systems / Re: Dream Catcher is better then roulette
« Last post by MrPerfect. on Today at 09:02:48 AM »
 At this case, need really to be a cretin to play this game. It's only one 40 slot with more then 50 slots to choose from. Mathematically speaking , only stupid gambling degenerate who's money is worth nothing will go and play it.
   I aplaud to the guys who created it and personally despise anyone who even consider to place a bet. Idiot is born every second in this world, if someone wanna making cleaning of population in order to make human better genetically, you know whom to start from, right?
    This post is really mean to be divisive and offencive. Even if this place is a gambling forum, l personally do not want it to become a place where people with iq less then 5 will gather.
Roulette Systems / Re: Dream Catcher is better then roulette
« Last post by vitorwally on Today at 07:39:39 AM »
You are allowed to place bets when the wheel is not spinning. Sometimes at the uttermost second of betting the dealer starts spinning, but, the last spin the dealer gives to the wheel is usually fueled with lots of momentum, completely different compared to the others. Regarding "40", only one slot. But it's not that rare to have 7x>40. I think 7x>40>40 also happened in the past a couple of times. And my definition of rare is related to the rarity some camera-guys face when filming wildlife, regularly seeing their efforts in vain.
Didn't see it as well. It was just a teaser.  ::)
Roulette Systems / Re: System DKP
« Last post by funtomas76 on Today at 07:02:10 AM »
Thank you Reyth.
And it would nice to have a combination of each two system, with coverage of 24 numbers each.
So we would have two new systems and determine a trigger.
Roulette Systems / Re: Dream Catcher is better then roulette
« Last post by hexfex82 on Today at 06:13:51 AM »
where is strategy or system? Did I miss it?
Roulette Systems / Re: System DKP
« Last post by Reyth on Yesterday at 10:01:02 PM »
I think Fun is on to something quite powerful with his performance chart.  I think we are able to make some pretty well informed statistical betting decisions based on how this chart manifests.

All systems combined show, at a glance, the status of all the numbers on the board and how they have performed.

I think when we make a betting decision based on convergence & are able to choose the most statistically favorable system to play, we have a very powerful betting strategy.

Sputnik knows what I am talking about with multiple systems.

I wonder about the idea of making a series of systems CUSTOM DESIGNED for this method.

Where each of the systems would have the quality of:

1) Covering the most felt for the least cost
2) Having the highest payout on certain target bets
3) Emphasizing specifically assigned felt locations in the following categories:
a) DZ 1-3
b) CL 1-3
c) Mutual numbers (at least 12)

Let's say we  use 4 different systems.  In order to achieve the above qualities each system would have to bet at least 13 numbers, bet let's see how big we can make the MUTUAL numbers!

If we divide each Dozen into a quadrant and each system covers 1 quadrant in each Dozen, that might be a good plan to create a comprensive set of systems.

This is 4 systems with no overlap within the same system and maximum overlap between them all (at least that is the goal I am attempting to achieve).


1 2 3 4 5 6
8 9 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18
20 21 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30

26 numbers covered for 6 chips.


0 2
4 5 6 7 8 9
10 13
16 17 18 19 20 21
28 29 30 31 32 33
35 36

24 numbers covered for 6 chips.


3 6
7 8 9 10 11 12
14 15 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24
26 27 29 30
31 32 33 34 35 36

28 numbers covered for 6 chips.


1 2 4 5
11 12 14 15
22 23 24 25 26 27
31 32 33 34 35 36

20 numbers covered for 6 chips.



So much for the "perfect system".  So how do we make sure we cover 100% of the felt but have as many mutual numbers as possible and keep the chip cost as low as possible?

I think the key may lie with this last system.  Here are the numbers shared by 1-3:

6 8 9 17 18 20 21 29 30 = nine numbers

That is pretty sad.  How many numbers shared between 1 & 2 and 1 & 3:

1 & 2: 2 4 5 6 8 9 13 16 17 18 20 21 28 29 30 = fifteen numbers

1 & 3: 3 6 8 9 11 12 14 15 17 18 20 21 23 24 26 27 29 30 = eighteen numbers

I think we should try and capture all 18 of those numbers in systems 2 & 4 both!

The 19 numbers NOT covered are:

0 1 2 3 4 5 7 10 13 16 19 22 25 28 31 32 33 34 35 36

Ok so I was able to generate 12 mutual numbers by doing the following:

1 chip in SP 10-13 SYSTEM 2
1 chip is DS 31-36 SYSTEM 2
1 chip in QD 1-5 SYSTEM 4 *** GIVE TO SYSTEM 2
1 chip in DS 31-36 SYSTEM 4
1 chip in DS 31-36 SYSTEM 4
1 chip in SP 22-25 SYSTEM 4

Take 1 chip away from SYSTEM 4 and give it to SYSTEM 2, now both systems have 3 chips.

1 chip each, 4 numbers = DS 7-12 [8 9 11 12]
1 chip each, 4 numbers = DS 13-18 [14 15 17 18]
1 chip each, 4 numbers = DS 25-30 [26 27 29 30] ===> Give [2] or [4] DS 19-24 instead

Now SYSTEM 4 will have 5 chips and SYSTEM 2 will have 7 chips.

I suck at this.  I am sure you can do a better job. 

Right now though, that is 4 systems with 100% board coverage & 12 mutual numbers.

I would love to have 18 mutual numbers, that would be amazing!
Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Reyth on Yesterday at 09:52:50 PM »
Thanks for posting Wally!  Maybe there is some way to improve the triggers to get them to perform positively.

I think one thing that has confused me is going back 6 spins -- I don't know how this relates to how Duncan kept betting opposite of last spin; in other words, how is betting depending on the current spins connected with the spins that occurred 6 iterations in the past??

Also how could he play so many individual sessions using the SAME betting pattern?

Why does he score each mini session with R or C (probably 6th spin back) and how in the heck does that affect any of our current spins?

If I can't make the betting method make sense, I don't feel inclined to pursue it. :'(

Glad you are still trying to work through it and thanks again for posting! :D

LOL. Ok MAYBE its like this:

He scores the column for the 6th spin back and bets against that event but FROM THEN ON he only deals with the current spins, betting opposite of last.

See how like bizarre and non-sensical that is??
Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by vitorwally on Yesterday at 09:20:39 PM »
As a guy that was reading this topic, as it was developing, without an account, I kind of felt obligated to register myself and leave some opinions.
1st. Even if charles was bluffing all the time just looking for easy money i think that at least he motivated some folks to try to win at this game.
2nd. Apparently he wasn't bluffing and the notes of the now dead webpage are solid.
3rd. Congrats for the guys that supposedly figured out this puzzle and thumbs up also for the others giving their best to reach it.
Finally, I also have my approach for charles mystery system even though I think it is still far far away from the original point of view. Either-way, as Reyth said, maybe at some point the things that are missing us would be more clear.
Roulette Systems / Re: System DKP
« Last post by MrPerfect. on Yesterday at 09:17:01 PM »
 Guys, need to understand very important thing about game in general - basics. Then think how to beat it.
    So before you loose more time thinking in this direction answer honestly for following qwestions:
  1. Are you able to win with any system?
  2. Are you able to play 3 different systems at the same time?
  3. How long is your spam of attention?
 4. How good you are with math? 
      Providing you answered honestly, you probably never will be back to this tread.
  And here is why:
     If you are unable to make an optimum money management for one system , how in this world you would be able to do it for few systems at the same time?
    Probably you do not understand importance of money management,  it's OK.  There are simple exercises to follow:
  1. Choose best 10 numbers, try 5-10 different betting systems for these numbers, compare results. Create optimum money management system ( betting).
  2. Choose worst 10 numbers, do the same as in first exercise. ...
  3. Now upply best system for worst numbers and vice versa. ... compare results.
    I'm sure almost no one gonna bother to actually do it. And here is direct reason why system players ( not systems ) loose. Can't be bothered to work on own understanding. ... because if someone actually can , he very qweak stop to be a system player.
    Hope that it will be a wake up call at least for someone , and others do not take it personally,  and if you do... then make these damn exercises till you understand that it's not about You, but roulette that l speak here...
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