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Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by leowls on Today at 12:23:21 PM »
do the columns work as good as the dozens? So far I have yet to test the columns.
Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by biturbo on Today at 12:15:15 PM »
Update after 17 runs with real money. +119 units;D
And that because between run #8 to #15 I lost plenty of time testing variants of management and trigger selection.
Since five runs I am testing the same thing and I think I have found the one I want to stay with for a long term test:
-One roulette, looking for triggers at both dozens and columns
-Virtual loss prior to bet (on that same type of bet, of course)
-Single step progression 2-3-3 units
-win stop +15, loss stop -20
-only live roulettes, no RNGs

My last five sessions:

The minimums reached were all around the -7 to -9, so very far from the loss stop. And, funny enough, they always come at the beginning of the sessions.
The last two sessions I implemented a further check regarding number distributions between the VL and the bet. As said on previous posts, I had the feeling that the most losses come when the distribution 33-33-33% is far from normal. So what I am doing now, when already having a VL and waiting for my trigger to bet, is quickly checking how the last 10 spins did. If they are around the 4-4-2 or similar, I of course bet. If they are something like 1-7-2, I wait a little bit more for normalization. Not talking about the 3-on-a-row-repeat of the same dozen, which always was a clear red. I am talking more about more "hidden" abnormal distributions such as i.e. LLLHLMLLHLL
And avoiding them doesn't seem to be a bad idea until now, I am not observing many virtual wins going away because of waiting.

As said, I will stay with this one system for a long term test of, let's say, 20 runs, instead of jumping and optimizing here and there everytime I have a not so good night (which, with this system, still means getting a -5 or -8 units result.... oh my God!!  ;D ;D )
After 28 voters (the voting is still open) Discipline is the no1 attribute with 18 votes.
Funny thing: I didn't vote for it, but I agree ;-)
Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to beat RNG roulette (tips)
« Last post by MrPerfect. on Today at 10:36:01 AM »
Sceps, Real is real. His book will become outdated when game itself be gone or change till point of no recognition. It's just a pro player manual that helps to learn how to select wheel to play and show game from a bit different perspective. .. unusual one.
    He had to possess engineering knowledge to wright that book, it has nothing to do with wheel manuals.
   Betting is something you will have to figure out by yourself,  every case is different.... book just teaching how to look and how to think ( last one not directly). It's just a book... information.  How to use it is up to the reader... many didn't make any use of it, to lazy to practice , l gess.
Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to beat RNG roulette (tips)
« Last post by scepticus on Today at 10:05:39 AM »
You miss my point Mr Perfect
I clearly said  that I was reading between the lines of his posts in this thread and not his book as you seem to think.
So you are still blinkered- unquestioning and  accepting anything that Real says.  Real IS a smart guy so I conclude that his posts are meant to tease us. He is a joker .
I DO NOT WANT the book - except to debunk it -because I  , and other System Players -do well enough WITHOUT it. If YOU read the book as carefully as you say you did then you must have come across SOMETHING  in it that indicates Real was an engineer, So -Look again and tell me that there are no clues. I would guess that most of his book deals with the wheel and not the actual BETTING and much of his book could be taken from wheel manuals and some of it  must be outdated .
ALL roulette players should understand the reality - we all take risks of losing money .There is NO 100% safe method so you and others should not infer that AP is a way to MILK the casino whenever you like.
Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to beat RNG roulette (tips)
« Last post by MrPerfect. on Today at 07:48:53 AM »
I got a book ;).
  To read between the lines, need to read the lines first, l gess. 
   I really know no one who really wanted that book and didn't got it. However l know no one who bothered to understand the book, besides probably VBMeister from other forum and myself. To really understand that book need to do what it says. Go out there, look wheels, make qweak models... collect data, think ( majority hates to do it ).
Casino Lounge / Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Last post by MrPerfect. on Today at 07:30:00 AM »
Everybody clame to be a player and have some experience. ... that's no harm. Who cares what folks pretend to be on roulette forum anyway.
    Now , can l see any data to support opinions lm reading here?
   Ds is common knowledge long ego. Need consistent spin timings, rotor, some help from wheel/ ball combination.
   Anyone bother to time some spins and collect at least 1-2 days data?
Cornerstones?...Mmmmm, let's see, my favourites are fifteen, eighteen, twenty-four and twenty-seven!
Casino Lounge / Re: Tipping while not yet in profit?
« Last post by Argus on Today at 02:43:25 AM »
Scepticus: Anyway,the point we make is that in ACTUAL playing conditions the ONLY question is whether the dealer AT YOUR TABLE can do so. I think the answer to that is an emphatic NO ! Unless you think that MOST dealers can do so .[/size] THAT  IS MY POSITIVE statement and i challenge you to disagree 

Are you making up parameters as you go along?  I will answer the ridiculous things you bring up though. Now it’s only if the dealer at my table can do it, and can all dealers do it. Well no, not all dealers can do it. There is one guy here who claims he was a dealer for 3 years but it never crossed his mind that it could be done. Clueless!  I imagine he is not the only dealer like that ( if he was a dealer?).

I know it can be done by some dealers, and consistently!  By consistently I mean when they want to.  Along with the other signals I gave in my last post, the dealer would have to look. If he does that too often he would get caught as sure as god made little green apples. There are people with their eye on him that know what they are looking at, besides tourists and punters who don’t have a clue.  And dealers can be fired on the spot.

So if you see a dealer with a slow wheel, slow ball spin, and looks at the wheel when he spins, tell him to cut it out or tell the pit boss.  He is cheating. Don’t tip him 8)
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