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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2017, 03:15:10 AM »
No it's not.  Again, I speak from experience.  However, you're likely merely expressing your feelings about what you think should be the case.  Sadly, you're wrong.

Maybe in a couple of weeks I'll create a thread where you can try your luck a bit and it will give you more insight into just how dead wrong you really are...

or...

You can try your luck on one of my simulators on some actual biased wheels via Skype sometime. 

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Of course.  That's why I never bet a biased number!  Just like you, I tend to notice biased "regions".

Also, on that wheel, I didn't bet biased regions. I played the numbers straight up largely in pairs.
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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2017, 09:13:11 AM »
]do you think this is a biased wheel?

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 11:09:24 AM »
It's looks not only bias,  but heavily broken as well. For one poket only... most wird results l have seen so far. Did you by any chance made a mistake when entering values totals for number hit frequencies?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 11:13:16 AM by MrPerfect. »
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2017, 01:55:35 PM »
Sadly, you're wrong.

That may be so but the numbers don't lie and the results are irrefutable.

AP players may claim that bias is their exclusive territory that is theirs alone, but thankfully they are wrong.

Also, on that wheel, I didn't bet biased regions. I played the numbers straight up largely in pairs.

Hmmm, betting numbers in pairs...  I would have thought you would bet at least 3 numbers as a minimum... 

Well obviously I cannot bet in pairs because random will sleep 2 numbers while others in the "region" will be more than active; its the biased "region" that doesn't gap.  I guess that is an advantage of physical bias.

Jan, I am having trouble understanding the headings on that output?

I think 31-36 looks pretty strong...

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2017, 02:05:40 PM »
It isnĀ“t copied very well:

row 1 - roulette numbers (sorted to chi-test-result)
row 2 - empirical appearence
row 3 - Sum/37 theoretical appearance if all would have hit equal
row 4 - Diff row2-row3
row 5 - result chi-test-formula

These spins are correct. No mistake in addition or transfer
 
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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2017, 03:02:55 PM »

Random explains much of you guys experiences.
Claims of Bias strangely omit to give a definite amount of  spins needed to justify their conclusions  Any conclusions can only give a DEFINITE MAYBE .
Logic does play a part in decision making.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2017, 03:21:02 PM »
Sceptics,  wich random? Jan posted data for superbiased wheel. It looks like someone hitted the wheel with hummer on purpose ... hm.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2017, 03:47:41 PM »
Someone should do a Chi Square on top of a roulette wheel and roulette felt.  We would all see amazing things with that kind of output.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2017, 03:58:33 PM »
I think janusz'  was using a simulation to make a point .Simulations are not reality.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2017, 04:06:31 PM »
My latest simulations are from reality!
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2017, 04:08:44 PM »
Monte Carlo simulations are extremely useful for getting insights into reality. I wouldn't have been able to make it as a pro without them.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2017, 04:33:40 PM »
@scepticus

These are real B&M spins. I could tell you the link to the spins. When Master Real made his claim I wanna know what and how long he would play on this wheel.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2017, 04:44:26 PM »
We smashed it the first time at very high units over 14 hours of play.  Then gave it some time off.  Once the wheel was moved, we milked it in it's new location over the course of a year.  Then it disappeared for about eight months.  When it returned we began milking it some more.  Then it was moved again to another location.  In the last location we smashed it again in a very high unit play.

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Someone should do a Chi Square on top of a roulette wheel and roulette felt.  We would all see amazing things with that kind of output.

Reyth,

I have all of the graphs, and chi square.  However they don't paste onto this forum well.  I have the number stream and dates next to the data.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 04:53:20 PM by Real »
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2017, 04:53:19 PM »
Wow Real kewl! 

If I can't paste things (like Excel sheets), then I do a screenshot and it always pastes perfectly and I can even resize it.
 

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Re: Casinos are my bitches!
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2017, 05:02:27 PM »
Reyth,

How do I post screen shots?

Total
16,407
High
603
Low
338
Chance of
random (1/x)
4.218E+48
Chi square
333.32
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