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« on: December 13, 2017, 12:34:20 PM »
 What would be for you personally enoth prove to enroll in vb classes?
    Is it real time demo, videos of doing it? Computer simulation on the data? ... ets.
   Please post your ideas about it here. Thanks.
  Please be realistic. ...


 
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 01:25:18 PM »
How would you do a computer simulation of VB?
 
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2017, 02:26:41 PM »
Anything people pay for has to have a value and a guarantee of some sort. The course is not something that people will invest in as an impulse purchase but they may impulsively purchase a gym membership. When you go to a gym you are surrounded by trimmed and muscled bodies. People see proof of what they are paying for.

Unfortunately in this day and age people are sceptical in investing their "hard earned money" on something that may give them a return on their investment. People are wary of being taken for a ride.

AP claims are just viewed as claims by people not in the know.  In other words people without sufficient knowledge of AP game play will not invest in an AP course before they are convinced that their money will be well spent.

The above is a generalised view of how people think these days.

You will have to convince potential students of the benefits of visual ballistics. Not tell them what they will learn after they have paid the fees. You have to convince them to pay the fees and to be super excited to learn this new approach to winning at roulette.
AP is not for all people so before you enroll a student they must be assessed or evaluated and based on the evaluation, they will be told if they have what it takes to continue. If you tell someone that they have the aptitude to become a successful AP, you are halfway there already.

Market your courses constantly and have promotions from time to time. Offer an introductory course to a limited number of students at no cost. Doing these things will attract potential students to you.
 
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 03:13:20 PM »
Here is simple test for anyone willing to learn.
   Film one video of entire spin, choose most visible diamond, tell to voice recorder numbers under the diamond when ball pass.
   Then take avidemux software and frame by frame look wich numbers have been there in reality. Use avidemux to collect timings of every consequtive revolition of ball. Submit all of these ( timings, observed number, real number) in excel to my pm. I will tell you if you got what it takes to learn vb. 99% yes. 
 
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2017, 06:49:00 AM »
Folks Will only pay if you Have the Holly grail in roulette and when you can provider proof. How Small the Earnings are, only then you can provider a class. But you know Just like me, that that ain't gonna happen because the Holly grail in roulette doesn't exist. ::)
 

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 10:08:57 AM »
Folks Will only pay if you Have the Holly grail in roulette and when you can provider proof. How Small the Earnings are, only then you can provider a class. But you know Just like me, that that ain't gonna happen because the Holly grail in roulette doesn't exist. ::)

I think the holy grail exists but has not been released yet as it is still being tested for "the long term". Could take a lifetime or more to be released...lol.

On a serious note, visual ballistics is a reality and like anything, if you sharpen your skills and continuously practise (like the military practise for combat), you will be able to generate higher and higher hit rates to the point that wins could be as frequent as your play.
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 10:44:42 AM »

The new generation of the roulette devices  of Cammegh have random rotor velocity software!!

 
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 11:03:57 AM »
The fact that casinos do this is proof that visual ballistics is a real threat to their profits.

Proof that AP is not a myth.

Thank you.
 
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 11:15:56 AM »
How would you do a computer simulation of VB?
Super qwestion!!!
    It's very easy. Need to collect timings manually and input them in excel. Then establish rulls how you identify revolution or ball speed or whatever you would like to identify. With excel you can easy see how long ball take , where it arrive , overall dispersion ...ets.
   It permits to test and compare visual ballistic methods on real world data and deternime what is important and what is bs.
   You can test and retest your hypothesis and methods on real data setts and see differences produced by different conditions becoming very "visual"... Excel is a great tool!!! This type of simulations help to make players understanding higher. It was a greatest mentor l got up till now ...
   Ones Bebedictus send me to f*** off ( when l asked him some programms) and told me to learn excel, up till this day it was best advice l got from roulette expert. At the moment l was pissed off, but later understood that he made me a favor. THANK YOU Bebedictus ;). Remember l told you l gonna become best player in the world ? Here we are 6 years later. Thanks one more time. I really mean it.
 
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 12:52:31 PM »
MrP, This is a hypothetic, so regard it as a question or inquiry from a prospective "cadet"
How exactly do you define the numbers (under the pre-determined diamond) when the ball passes, and by "real world data" do you mean data (results) collected from a B&M casino?
 
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 01:10:18 PM »
Fyodor, lm not determining numbers under the diamond. I get reference number that may happen to be anywhere on the wheel at the moment of my looking for it.
  There are no fixed revolution timings there, so reference number for  ball speed represent much more interesting piece of information. 
  Real world data is timings of ball and wheel registered by avidemux software in this case( plus ball behaviors). Not these taken out of blue with errors or simulated by softwares, math models... ets.
  I prefer empirical data to make decisions. 
    Hope it helps.
 

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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 01:21:47 PM »
Cammegh does not fear the VB player but the electronic devices to predict the outcome of the roulette. In London a group was catched with laser devices
 
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 01:42:36 PM »
Dobbelsteen, do you believe everything you read? Just think yourself how would you go there and point lazers to the wheel... You can buy laser pointer(3-5 $)  and play a bit with it to understand. Need to stand very quite to be able to keep such a thing in one point....
   At the place of casino l would consider vb player much higher treat then computer one. To operate properly  computers need to be simple and do not limit natural capablities of the player. With most it's just not the case...
 
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 02:50:33 PM »
Remember l told you l gonna become best player in the world ? Here we are 6 years later. Thanks one more time. I really mean it.
Till now you not behave like best player  :)
Best player - simply wins, not look for any market   :)
To find for who to sell something - is much harder than simply win... and gain is much less usually....of course if you are really that, who can win.
In myroulett I started thema  - how to show what we can, in such way, that will be clear for others , that this is not fake.Nobody even not sugest something worth.
 How to do that will be clear that man who show that really can do something in real game.

For me looks that all that is not interesting for forum peoples  :)

Till now i can say only one - I met  maybe more than 7 persons, who in forums tryed to look like professionals.
in meeting nobody show something impressive , more - all they showed  negative play...so almoust random , not looking to that they used something what is like AP.

With some peoples done some tests through skype, pitty , the result was - the same...

I saw Kaisan in play, I saw chineeses guys in play, who played good, I can calculate mine play. So that is all in what i believe - all other are simply words... maybe can be true , but I not know....
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 05:53:43 PM »
 Bebedictus,  lm not a professional player. Its just one of things that l do. If l  will play like l play for living, l will be without of places to play very soon. :)
 
 
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