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Reyth

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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2017, 01:23:21 AM »
Thanks!  I believe I have been doing this for what I estimate to be about 30,000 betting events (spins where bets are placed in the pixels).

You have already stated that one of the causes of bias (hot numbers) is randomness.  I of course agree.

This randomness is limited by outcome, felt location & sequence length which is why RNG BiasTM must always be present.

You have noticed it in your wheel tracking but because it is so relatively small and fickle, you don't give it much credence.  However, bias is bias, no matter how small.

We are all free to believe and play the way we wish but raw data output cannot be denied:



Here is a spin sample that you must respect.  It is 5265 spins and we can clearly see the RNG BiasTM in DS 25-30 where it has had 347 less spins than expectation for the number of coups accrued, and 305 more coups than expected without a gap of 27 spins.

That IS bias, plain as day.  Regardless of what anyone believes, the output is factual and it occurs because of the closed circuit triad.

Raw output totals will tend to hide the bias unless we dig in like you have suggested I should but regardless, we can see bias in a simple 37 spin sample, like the one I posted.

Even with just 8-9 hits in a group above the other numbers over a prolonged period, I will be profitable.  This must happen with every RNG spin sequence of sufficient length.
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2017, 08:14:14 AM »
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Whether it's a roulette wheel or a random number generator software
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2017, 12:53:29 PM »
Whether it's a roulette wheel or a random number Generator software, some numbers repeat more than others but nevertheless when talking about the recurrence of numbers on the Roulette wheel then the mechanical wheel has more issues that the number of recurrence causes some numbers repeat more than others like RNG software which is quite much indeed really random because it has no mechanical wearable parts like The Roulette Wheel software program is quite much anyway as a complete no error calculator.
So even though your knowledge has hot numbers most often repeated numbers you can still know how many spins goes that hot number will come next time usually happens so that the hot number will not come but nevertheless the spin hits its hot number in either one on the side of the neighbor's number and now I speak the wheel and I do not talk about roulette the board table of neighbor numbers.
 
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2017, 05:20:40 PM »
I agree, RNG is like the perfect wheel! :D

But we should remember that the felt doesn't spin! XD
 

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Which is the stronger attribute value of the hot number
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2017, 10:54:52 AM »
Which is the stronger attribute of the value of the hot number whether that number is repeated most of some spins t or is it just some  number hast  highest std deviations value in some spins.
If there are many numbers having the same values repeats and Std Deviation then when it is then possible to find among those numbers  the most hottest number that will probably come in the next spins
 
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2017, 11:14:55 AM »
Reyth already posted... it's his "speed tm".... other to help it would be " mod value of skips".
    With these 2 you can devise betting plans on known bias wheel.
 
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2017, 12:02:26 PM »

Even Roulette Xtereme 2.0 many stats do not always give you the clarity of the hottest number although the values are available in a relatively large amount
I have noticed that my gaming methods work best huxleys wheels as cammegh that is, in my gaming methods dont work fairly and equitably on each wheel Huxley and cammegh knows, maybe it is the reason RRS cammegh;)
usually i play all the hottest number and its two numbers on either side is the wheel usually though the hottest number does not fire in the next spins so usually one of the neighbor numbers might comes but not still 100% with certainty
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2017, 01:53:21 PM »
@Mr. P: Ok, now we are getting somewhere.  The "mod value" of gaps.  I already track gaps and I even posted the formula for how I track them, so I guess that is not the "mod value".  Can you please define "mod value" for me and how it is calculated? 

I also track the spins since each individual number has hit and the total numbers within a group that are not currently gapping and how many times in a row each individual number has hit without a gap.

@LROP: As far as SD goes, that calculates the long-term gaps (or lack of gaps) of 37 spin cycles, right?  My problem with using that as a calculation that solely determines by bets is that my progression does not extend for 37 spins!

Are you using SD to track hot numbers?  That's kind of like a "reverse-SD" isn't it?  I mean I am always so used to thinking of SD as the deviation from the expected hits instead of the deviation from expected misses!
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2017, 02:17:06 PM »
I use std deviation and spins repeaters but some time stats are  equidistant that it is difficult to call it the most hot number but if you look at the hot number, you will find a numbers of statistics on both sides of hot number two neighbournes number so then the thing will look a bit better i do not bet the only hot number but also its two neighbor numbers on either side itrack 18-20 spin or 50-100 spins I have tests done if you collect 37 spins so its data does not win, at least not with a live roulette wheel but perhaps RNG roulette is enough that considers the information collected after the 37 spins
 

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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2017, 02:27:39 PM »

Reyth, "mod value" is just most common value in my interpretation.  You can plot skips same way as you plot numbers. Then you can see their frequency and if any of them are repetitive or most common ( or both) and look std of event..  ets by the book of stats. If the mod value is less then average value, you got yourself a present where no one else can see it.
   Read 50 times at least ...  ;) .
It's a math way to devise strategies of play on known bias wheel without being too obvious. 
     With your " speed " indicator together it can be used as in trading ( moving averages indicators intersections) to define trend and limmit/ qualify favorable conditions of play, determine/ test triggers...ets.
   Hope it's not too much math... do not take as a dogma,  no need for fanatic obsessions. 
   BTW,  it's exactly " how to" of my " sequential method TM "
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2017, 02:27:49 PM »
Right, I do the same thing as well.  I spin 37 times before I begin betting.  That is because before 37 spins, the changes can be quite rapid and severe. 

Once I have 37 spins, I have a TARGET to bet that I start to monitor.  The sequence can still SWITCH targets but eventually it will settle in on ONE target (maybe stay on the same one).

I wait for the favorable statistics before beginning to bet (sometimes its favorable at 37 spins).

I bet as many times as I can in a row but I do not bet continuously; I always bet until I get a hit but whether I bet again is based on the statistics.

The only thing I care about is not getting a gap!
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2017, 02:37:37 PM »
@Reyth... skips,ets is just a way to determine and explore "natural" limit in degrees of freedom the system ( ball / wheel ) has. If there is a deffect (s) , there are limits. Same methodology could potentially be used on rng with the limits  ( prng) . Qweston is..  where to find this prng that is exploitable?  Web, online casinos..  probably not, and they do not pay for beating excel simulations unfortunately. ... sad, isn't it? 
 

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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2017, 02:38:39 PM »
THIS POST OF LROP DISAPPEARED:

I use std deviation and spins repeaters but some time stats are  equidistant that it is difficult to call it the most hot number but if you look at the hot number, you will find a numbers of statistics on both sides of hot number two neighbournes number so then the thing will look a bit better i do not bet the only hot number but also its two neighbor numbers on either side itrack 18-20 spin or 50-100 spins I have tests done if you collect 37 spins so its data does not win, at least not with a live roulette wheel but perhaps RNG roulette is enough that considers the information collected after the 37 spins
 

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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2017, 02:41:40 PM »
@Mr. P:

ALL FAIR RNG IS EXPLOITABLE

This is because the LotT is a statistical fact that applies to all spin sequences and we must always deal with closed circuits:

1) Number results
2) Felted locations
3) Sequence length

RNG MUST produce imbalance in every spin sequence of sufficient length.

How many LotT sessions (37 spins) do we have after 111 spins?

Most people will say 3.  However, this is incorrect!  After 111 spins we have 75 LotT sessions!!!

The LotT applies ACROSS ALL 75 SESSIONS the same as it does across ONE!  The same as 1M, 16M, 5Q, ALL SEQUENCES!!!

Now don't get me wrong, RNG BiasTM is not as "stable" as physical bias and that heavily limits earning speed (because the risk is increased) but is just as REAL!

YES THIS MEANS YOU, REAL!
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Re: Why hot numbers become hot
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2017, 03:06:49 AM »
Reyth, fair rng may have limits and be exploited. .. l used to play one for a year..   problem is if it's fair.
   If you can find something that makes money there, l uplaud you. Well done. As long as it really makes money.
    I belive you would make more money on normal wheels dow