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Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 07:57:10 PM »
I really don't see the point why someone would waste time to criticize something that,  in his opinion, doesn't work instead of trying to pursue or share what works.

Relentless criticism can deter members from sharing their ideas and systems. This is not something I guess, this is a complain I have received more than once from various members. Some of them, like juice, even left the forum for good.

So when Janusz asked me to move the topic to the System Players Forum, that is only open to members who are seriously interested in and respect other member's systems, so he can explain his ideas without distractions, I wholeheartedly agreed.
 
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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 09:01:48 PM »
I have done threads on this before. Is it PLAYABLE at an actual casino under actual casino conditions??

You can show me ten great methods on paper. It doesn't mean a %*$&^#@%* thing to me, I'm not impressed.

Too many numbers, calculate how many chips per number(?), how many spins, "the lines must cross each other", blah blah blah. Can you do all that in under ten seconds? No? (rofl)

Belly up to an actual casino with an actual BR and play like a man. GUT? (lol)

Ken
 

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 09:36:02 PM »
I appreciate systems that are designed for pure RNG and I play pure RNG.  Pure RNG IS RNG just like a wheel, minus the imperfections. :shrug:

I realize I am in the minority and I accept that.  I am not a popularity contest, I am just myself.

I know of winning systems played on RNG & successful strategies for regular withdrawals on select casinos that can be trusted.
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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 09:47:25 PM »
Can "pure RNG" deny to pay you if you went on a nice winning streak?

Ken
 

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 09:50:12 PM »
I admit I'm an old fashioned player like MrJ
But it has nothing to do with manliness :-)
I wish I could be more flexible.
 

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 10:23:43 PM »
In the real world of roulette, there is no "repeat bet" button.

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2017, 10:46:58 PM »
Kav, Reyth,

I don't know why it is that you two are so moderation "happy."

The way you guys over moderate, move, and delete thread creates chaos here.

@Mr. J...

Since our mighty moderators have taken it upon themselve to delete the thread where we were discussing the GUT, most of what's posted now doesn't make sense, is out of context, or is off track from the original discussion.
 

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2017, 10:49:29 PM »
I really don't see the point why someone would waste time to criticize something that,  in his opinion, doesn't work instead of trying to pursue or share what works. 

Maybe if you'd read the thread before deleting it you'd understand why. 

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Relentless criticism can deter members from sharing their ideas and systems. This is not something I guess, this is a complain I have received more than once from various members. Some of them, like juice, even left the forum for good.

Without the facts dumb ideas gain traction, people may quit there jobs chasing them...etc.   However if you'd like to keep a safe space where the blissfully ignorant can stay that way then more power to you.  However, in five years you're forum will look just like it does now, and just like it did five years ago.  Completely void of a working system with the Martingales, triggers, and everyone still searching for "just the right progression."   But perhaps you're goal is to sell systems, rather than trying to win money...and for that you'll need a forum of mentally challenged desperate people.
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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2017, 11:00:41 PM »
The purpose of this forum is to discuss roulette with emphasis on system play.

Forums exist for a purpose.  People that flaunt posts that interfere with that purpose are called TROLLS.

You are intelligent and there is no need for you to disrespect this forum, but you choose to anyway.

Apologies but you don't have the right to TROLL this forum and then complain about how corrective action is taken, it is done in the spirit of the purpose of this forum.

It is Kav's open-mindedness and kindness that allows you to use this forum.  Some people are highly offended by your behavior and some have left or refuse to post because of it.

At what point does open-mindedness and kindness become contrary to the purpose of a forum space?  Usually when people who already know better, push things too far. 
 
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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2017, 11:15:48 PM »
The reason that some of us correct the mistakes of others is the same reason that a school teacher does so in the classroom.  It's so that everyone may learn.



School teachers aren't trolls, and neither are more experienced gambler's and mathematicians. Take the opportunity to learn from the experience and mistakes of others as you will not live long enough to make all of the mistakes yourselves.   

By the way, the forum process works best when you guys don't chop up the threads so much.  A little less moderation would go a long way towards improving your forum, will alienate fewer people and help prevent visitors from being so disconnected.
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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 02:46:36 AM »


Since our mighty moderators have taken it upon themselve to delete the thread where we were discussing the GUT, most of what's posted now doesn't make sense, is out of context, or is off track from the original discussion.[/b]

Yes, I see my GUT post is missing. Kav, I was not insulting GUT per say, just saying how under casino conditions its not playable and therefore should be labeled as such. How can one be interested in a method that SOLELY wins on paper or RNG?

How does that help anyone? Member Real has a point regarding all the deleting. Its one thing if its foul language etc.

Can a GUT player show me how its done (at least in theory) where everything is calculated and bets placed in under ten seconds on EVERY spin? If not, why would anyone even talk about the method? Methods must MATCH casino conditions. I'm sorry but this is the truth.

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 07:37:17 AM »
Real,
A forum certainly doesn't get better if each and every system idea is descending to a "no system works, play the wheel" debate.

Most of your posts are non productive. You criticize without presenting an alternative.
Mr Perfect for example, though not a system player, has offered much more info about how he approaches roulette. There is a VB section in the forum. I never see you posting there, sharing your wisdom.

I really want you to be part of the forum but please try to do more good than harm.
 
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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 08:03:00 AM »
Where can I find the explanation the GUT does not work??
 

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Re: Constructive reviews and explanation as to why the GUT doesn't work.
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 09:19:33 AM »
Where is this GUT system anyway? is it explained on this forum?

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Can a GUT player show me how its done (at least in theory) where everything is calculated and bets placed in under ten seconds on EVERY spin? If not, why would anyone even talk about the method? Methods must MATCH casino conditions. I'm sorry but this is the truth.

Isn't the first order of business to find out if the system works? If it's worth playing then you could always play at live wheels online using a spreadsheet or software to do the calculations.
 
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