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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2017, 02:55:07 PM »
Your simulations might generate 50 reds in a row or 37 uniques in 37 spins, they are irrelevant because they don't represent real conditions.

Therefore I dismiss your reasoning and my suggestion to you is that if you really perceive your simulations so seriously then why don't you buy a lottery ticket??
Winning the 1st prize is more possible than expecting to see 34 uniques in 37 spins, so go ahead and buy that lottery ticket, according your simulations you'll become millionaire before you die!

Good luck!

Scep, your comment couldn't be more inaccurate, if what I've described means ''grinder'' to you then there must be some serious fault in your perception!
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2017, 03:41:16 PM »
The point of simulations is to discover the parameters of play according to the strategy or system you're using. I fail to see why this doesn't represent what you call 'real' conditions?

In all likelihood you won't see 34 unique outcomes but even so, the progression is insane. It's pure gambling, so doesn't appeal to me, but whatever floats your boat. Good luck to you also, I think you'll need it more than I do. It never ceases to amaze me how punters put their faith in increasing stakes after losses. Even with a real edge it's the most inefficient way to manage your bank.
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2017, 03:59:29 PM »

My " perception" BA , is that your mini- martingale is NOT a grinder . It wins SMALL profits regularly - just the same as a full blown Marty.
I agree with McCoy here. You WILL win regularly but you are unaware that the "Fat Tail" of a Black Swan may suddenly appear unexpectedly and  that Black Swan will swallow your bankroll.
I concede that you are one of the majority in this forum who are prepared to accept  small profits while risking a
catastrophic loss.
Different strokes for different folks.
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2017, 04:42:41 PM »
Opinions are like noses, everyone has one.
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2017, 04:59:27 PM »
Why people cut on the win? Cutting losses sims more productive.. at least for me.
  Optimal strategy for gambling is simple, bet less trials you can to the maximum. There was a math guy, he received some kind of award, even publicity in newspapers and TV. 
   Not that it would help anyhow to ordinary gambler, it just reduce exposure to HE.
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2017, 05:26:44 PM »
I really don't get it, if you don't like something then why you bother?!

If I was to express publicly what I really think about the most of the threads around this forum then I would spend my entire day by filling negative comments!

Your comments are not well intentioned, are not in suggestive/constructive manner like: why not this instead of that, in particular and not in vague and generic manner.

As long as the administrator lets these kind of comments then fewer and fewer would come forth to share a valuable info/idea.

If you would start your own topic which I wouldn't like it, I would not pop up out of the blue to condemn your idea, why are you doing this?

You want to sell roulette computers? fine
You want to sell VB lessons? all fine with me, but why do you participate in this way?!

Start your own thread and post there whatever you believe!
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2017, 06:11:57 PM »
BA, l do not remember the name of that guy, with 2 min googling you will find his name.
  He mathematically proved that most favorable way to gamble is to bet as high as you can as few trials as posible. What do you have egainst it? I speak facts, what is your point? I's it directed towards me or math guy?
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2017, 07:50:21 PM »
No, I'm not speaking in particular to you mr Perfect.

Betting big for a while doesn't provide any advantage, it's like the misconception of hit and run.
Many embrace it but I'm not one of them.

What's more possible will happen first because it occurs in greater frequency, as betting goes on from day to day, week to week, month to month...you will encounter more infrequent, rare events and guess what happens when you bet against them.

In roulette there is no middle ground, when you decide what to bet you bet against something else, it's chance against chance, hope against hope, you win or you lose on the variance's edge.

Time is not an enemy, as a matter of fact time does absolutely nothing on its own, what matters is what happens during this time, what we do as time passes by.

All events have a probability and happen eventually but not with the same frequency, for me this the key, the ratio between frequency of an event and its respective payout.

Payouts are fixed, we cannot change them, but frequency of events is something not fixed, neither stable, it could become a bless or a curse...

 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2017, 10:22:22 PM »

Blue Angel
You are betting against  "the rare event "  ! And " guess what happens when you  bet against them ?
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #39 on: September 06, 2017, 03:14:02 PM »
Another way to look into it is by expecting 3 repeats/wins instead of 6.
It doesn't matter how many repeats occurred before, what matters is that these 3 repeats will happen within the last 3rd of the 37 spins cycle.

Therefore, instead of betting from 2nd spin and expecting for 6 repeats/wins, we could alternatively begin bet on 26th till overall profit up to and including 37th spin.
3 wins within 12 bets is a quarter, 1/4, 25% expectation while you cover more than 50% of the numbers.

I gave you an example of how you should use the divisor progression, doesn't have to be 6 wins necessarily, it could be utilized for any amount of wins and payouts.
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2017, 07:46:49 PM »

SPINS   BETS    UNITS    TOTAL     NET      CHECKPOINTS   AC.PR.
   1         EC         1            1           1                -
   2         EC         2            3           1                 -            36 NUMBERS
   3         D/C       2            5           1                 -
   4         D/C       3            8           1                 -
   5         D/C       5            13         2                 -             72 NUMBERS
   6        LINE       3            16         2                 -
   7        LINE       4            20         4                 -
   8        LINE       5            25         5                 -
   9        LINE       6            31         5                 -
  10       LINE       7            38         4                 -
  11       LINE       8            46         2                 -             108 NUMBERS
  12      QUAD      6            52         2                 -
  13      QUAD      7            59         4                 -
  14      QUAD      8            67         5                 -
  15      QUAD      9            76         5                 -
  16      QUAD     10           86         4                 -
  17      QUAD     11           97         2                 -
  18      QUAD     13           110       2                 -
  19      QUAD     14           124       2                 -
  20      QUAD     16           140       4                 -              144 NUMBERS
  21    STREET     13           153       3                -
  22    STREET     14           167       1                -
  23    STREET     16           183       9                -
  24    STREET     17           200       4                -
  25    STREET     19           219       9                -
  26    STREET     20           239       1                -
  27    STREET     22           261       3                -
  28    STREET     24           285       3                -
  29    STREET     26           311       1                -
  30    STREET     29           340       8                -
  31    STREET     31           371       1          31 COUPS
  32    STREET     34           405       3                -          180 NUMBERS
  33     SPLIT       24           429       3                -
  34     SPLIT       26           455      13                -
  35     SPLIT       27           482       4                 -
  36     SPLIT       29           511      11                -
  37     SPLIT       31           542      16                -
  38     SPLIT       32           574       2                 -
  39     SPLIT       34           608       4                 -
  40     SPLIT       36           644       4                 -
  41     SPLIT       38           682       2                 -
  42     SPLIT       41           723      15                 -
  43     SPLIT       43           766       8            43 COUPS
  44     SPLIT       46           812      16                 -
  45     SPLIT       48           860       4                  -
  46     SPLIT       51           911       7                  -
  47     SPLIT       54           965       7                  -
  48     SPLIT       57          1022       4                 -
  49     SPLIT       61          1083      15                 -
  50     SPLIT       64          1147       5                  -            216 NUMBERS
  51    NUMBER    33          1180       8                  -
  52    NUMBER    34          1214       10                 -
  53    NUMBER    35          1249       11                 -
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  57    NUMBER    39          1399        5                 -
  58    NUMBER    40          1439        1                 -
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  60    NUMBER    43          1524       24                 -
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  62    NUMBER    45          1613        7                 -
  63    NUMBER    47          1660       32                 -
  64    NUMBER    48          1708       20                 -
  65    NUMBER    49          1757        7                 -
  66    NUMBER    51          1808       28                 -
  67    NUMBER    52          1860       12                 -
  68    NUMBER    54          1914       30                 -
  69    NUMBER    55          1969       11                 -
  70    NUMBER    57          2026       26                 -
  71    NUMBER    58          2084        4                 -
  72    NUMBER    60          2144       16                 -
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  74    NUMBER    64          2270       34                 -
  75    NUMBER    65          2335        5                 -
  76    NUMBER    67          2402       10                 -
  77    NUMBER    69          2471       13                 -
  78    NUMBER    71          2542       14                 -
  79    NUMBER    73          2615       13                 -
  80    NUMBER    75          2690       10                 -
  81    NUMBER    77          2767        5                 -
  82    NUMBER    80          2847       33                 -
  83    NUMBER    82          2929       23                 -
  84    NUMBER    84          3013       11                 -
  85    NUMBER    87          3100       32                 -
  86    NUMBER    89          3189       15                 -      252 NUMBERS
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2017, 08:27:36 PM »
Behold with all its might, 252 numbers being bet in 86 bets, just 1 of them is enough to provide net gain.

Probability: 1/216

Average net return: 9.5 units approximately

1 bankroll bust costs approximately 334 coups (3189/9.5=334)

Risk to Reward ratio: 1 in 252 < 1 in 334

Its risk in regards to reward is not good, thus I've established not 1 but 2 checkpoints in order to prevent bankroll elimination.

Checkpoints explained: it's a measure for prevention, the 1st is on the 31st bet of the progression which means that if you pass that point before you achieve 31 coups you should quit the session right after couping the ongoing sequence.

This is the 1st sign and if you are more conservative you should not wait for the 2nd checkpoint, from 31st to 86th which is the last bet there are 55 more bets to end successfully before you quit your session.

The 2nd checkpoint stands exactly on the middle of the entire progression, on 43rd bet.
So let's say you are more risky and prefer a higher quit signal, this should be your ultimate, when progression proceeds beyond 43rd bet before you coup 43 times signals that you should quit the session right after couping the ongoing sequence.

From 43rd to 86th which is the last bet there are 43 more bets to end successfully before you quit your session.

As long as you are ahead in coups VS progression steps you could continue as long as you like, but, personally speaking, I wouldn't go for more than 50 coups per session.
50 coups are not 50 units because many coups provide more than 1 unit net profit.

What should be your target selection, I'm leaving it up to you!
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2017, 11:09:45 PM »

BA
Short Progressions I can understand but long ones give cause for  concern . As you say Risk for Reward is Hairy Scary .
Still each to his own .. Any method that profits is O.K.by me. Even AP-  LOL !
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2017, 11:15:55 PM »
@ Scep,

Probably you missed this:
''Its risk in regards to reward is not good, thus I've established not 1, but 2 checkpoints in order to prevent bankroll elimination.''

My suggestion to you is to read throughout before you jump to conclusions.

Even Real would realize its magnificent power!
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2017, 11:46:38 PM »

I think Real would question your ability to prevent elimination of bankroll !