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Let's make a HG
« on: May 23, 2017, 10:07:33 AM »
Any one interested. I' have been studying the law of thirds and experimenting things go like the law says. So we can have few quite sure assumptions that holds true there's always repeaters and never will be 37 different numbers?

I don't yet know how to process that Idea but. I would start this topic saying that if we bet all the numbers that have come we can expect at least that 1 of them will repeat. But in reality it's more.  First I had an idea that I make a progression for 37 spins and adding one unit per spin to all the numbers that hit. I made the progression it's now 16 steps and not yet lost.

But we can expect more than 1 repeater for the cycle. So how guys we can exploit the fact that there will be around 12 no shows of numbers.?

What would be the the lowest cost betting method for covering the numbers that are shown. Betting straight ups is taking lot of units.
The long 37 step progression takes a lot of BR I think 20000 - 40000 units would be the cost for that.

But if we have expectation of 5 hits to come on repeaters we could with right progression make this work. I know there is a lot of law of third strategies and repeater things. But I think I have a fresh idea on this.

I'll try to come up with something that could be usable.
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 11:04:55 AM »
During this days I have been testing a method combining the law of the thirds and parachute. To use the strength of parachute, you need hited numbers to be next to each other in the layout. I wait untill I have 4 numbers that hited once in a DS. Then I start parachute with 8 steps (LH, DOZ, DS, DS, DS, Quad, Quad, Quad).

Pros: it is flat bet, if you fail an atack you only lose 8 units.
      Most of the time you win with LH and DOZ bets and many times they hit serval times in a row.
      With DS and Quad bets, you can win more than one unit if they are not the last bet of that type.

Cons: Waiting time. You have to wait for the trigger, but I think that it does worth.
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 11:39:45 AM »
I wanna exploit that 37 spins cycle since its quite predictable.  Your method is interesting. Maybe progression that goes up on win IF not on profit. Could it be so easy and cheap?  The deeper we get in the 37 spin cylcle if there is no hits there is "due" hits to come so some kind of positive progression and counting the hits and things like that.
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 11:51:22 AM »
Since the hits are Predictably coming with 37 spins. How would you bet if if you knew that theres going to be 5 repeaters? What's the best way to go? Oscar grind maybe? Or martingale would make sense some how.

Or take the spins in series of 10 :O More thinking it's coming I know. ???

Current Idea need testing: Add 1 unit to every number that appears. When hit raise chips by 1 and continue adding same amount to new numbers until win.
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 12:33:19 PM »
Bio, so your goal is to hit a single number?

In my research over 70% of single number betting would hit within the first 24 spins. 40% of a single number bet would hit within the first 12 spins. 6% of bets would go over 100 spins. Most hits came with the first 30-50 spins and then dropped off.
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 12:46:42 PM »
I'm trying to play the numbers that have already hit for the repeaters since it's easier to narrow down your target since the single numbers can sleep but the repeaters will be always on numbers that have hit already.  The big idea is that there is always an repeater within 37 spins. I plan to catch the repeaters and 3 rd repeaters.  Maybe I'll do some simulations and see is  always the case that there is 3rd repeater within 37 spins. If there is one it would narrow a lot of the bets and make it cheaper for a ultimate progression.
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 05:47:36 PM »
What you can do within a cycle of 37 spins, is bet on a number(s) that has 2 or more hits before the 37 spin cycle ends. Most of the time when a number hits for the second time a 3rd one is not far away. just an idea.
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 11:29:59 AM »
Yep the tests were wrong. I did correct it and now the real stats made on computer RNG. 1M of cycles  and 983777 has third repeater in it. Still quite strong.  But what's the best way to play this?

 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 03:13:25 PM »
Data of 100 sets of 37 spins. 2 sets did not have third repeater or more and it's left out. Maybe we can see something here.

[2, 6, 15, 24]
[9, 14, 32]
[26, 32, 35]
[6, 9, 13, 29]
[8, 19, 28, 31]
[13, 25, 27]
[15, 16, 30]
[3, 12, 31]
[11, 14, 16]
[9, 29, 31]
[2, 5, 6]
[2, 10, 28]
[6, 12, 30]
[2, 34, 36]
[3, 25, 30]
[16, 23, 25, 29]
[7, 23, 26]
[8, 34, 36]
[14, 23, 25]
[15, 17, 32]
[6, 22, 25, 26]
[4, 26, 27]
[13, 20, 34]
[15, 19, 29]
[5, 21, 36]
[18, 20, 22]
[0, 7, 31]
[2, 8, 22]
[28, 32, 35]
[3, 24, 35]
[1, 4, 34]
[6, 27, 30, 31]
[18, 25, 26, 28]
[6, 12, 29]
[1, 10, 17]
[15, 18, 34, 36]
[13, 18, 36]
[8, 25, 26]
[3, 10, 23]
[6, 16, 19]
[11, 12, 26]
[0, 30, 34]
[1, 17, 19]
[10, 14, 19]
[9, 21, 31]
[17, 24, 26]
[0, 7, 24]
[5, 14, 32]
[11, 19, 24, 30, 32]
[6, 13, 32]
[21, 34, 35]
[9, 26, 27]
[19, 21, 28]
[2, 11, 23]
[5, 11, 16, 31]
[21, 33, 36]
[9, 20, 25]
[3, 6, 22]
[12, 25, 29, 36]
[25, 26, 28]
[9, 10, 25]
[6, 27, 28]
[0, 18, 31]
[15, 26, 29]
[26, 28, 35]
[12, 18, 21, 34]
[20, 32, 33]
[0, 7, 10]
[14, 21, 28]
[4, 26, 32]
[5, 21, 27]
[0, 22, 34]
[12, 15, 16]
[0, 5, 19, 21, 30]
[5, 13, 36]
[0, 5, 17, 34]
[5, 8, 24]
[24, 25, 33]
[8, 16, 33]
[4, 18, 30]
[11, 33, 35]
[20, 24, 28, 29]
[14, 21, 23]
[10, 17, 36]
[0, 29, 30]
[9, 23, 25]
[6, 15, 28]
[2, 21, 32]
[9, 28, 36]
[19, 23, 33]
[7, 15, 25]
[18, 26, 32]
[23, 24, 27]
[0, 21, 25]
[5, 10, 35]
[6, 16, 29]
[3, 23, 28]
[17, 28, 29]
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 03:21:12 PM »
74 spins sets and 100 times. All of those sets had 4 times of 5 times repeating number. But It's quite clear to me what happens.   4th time of repeats is very close.

[33, 45, 59, 71]
[12, 19, 30, 32, 66]
[0, 8, 17, 34, 46]
[3, 9, 34, 46]
[4, 31, 46, 52, 56, 64]
[16, 24, 45, 57]
[12, 29, 35, 36, 46]
[32, 39, 49, 69, 73]
[26, 45, 49, 53]
[20, 25, 31, 43]
[5, 19, 40, 65]
[0, 6, 8, 44, 58, 73]
[21, 40, 49, 55]
[10, 27, 57, 60]
[10, 12, 23, 24, 32, 37, 64, 68, 70]
[41, 61, 66, 73]
[6, 31, 39, 46, 73]
[2, 3, 22, 37, 44, 53, 59]
[7, 46, 53, 72]
[9, 20, 42, 45, 55]
[8, 25, 26, 39, 49, 52]
[10, 15, 25, 56]
[7, 13, 20, 23, 24]
[32, 35, 43, 53]
[33, 34, 40, 48]
[19, 22, 23, 39, 49, 55, 56]
[4, 20, 64, 66]
[14, 27, 35, 53]
[42, 46, 53, 64]
[17, 22, 24, 25]
[12, 18, 22, 29, 39, 56]
[0, 6, 29, 55, 58]
[7, 9, 54, 61, 64]
[3, 33, 35, 65]
[59, 61, 67, 71]
[10, 25, 30, 72]
[22, 28, 35, 71]
[29, 47, 52, 70]
[13, 47, 50, 51]
[4, 14, 16, 44]
[8, 40, 54, 55]
[17, 40, 42, 63]
[8, 30, 47, 63, 73]
[5, 24, 27, 36]
[0, 12, 41, 71]
[1, 14, 35, 37]
[2, 11, 16, 27]
[8, 10, 16, 28, 59]
[28, 53, 69, 72]
[6, 12, 53, 66]
[30, 39, 45, 57, 67]
[14, 15, 55, 72]
[4, 33, 59, 65]
[23, 50, 56, 58]
[15, 20, 30, 32, 55]
[39, 40, 41, 56]
[14, 16, 23, 60]
[20, 29, 49, 71]
[6, 17, 40, 51]
[4, 23, 31, 63]
[25, 51, 62, 65]
[25, 38, 59, 72]
[2, 4, 8, 13]
[7, 10, 21, 30]
[0, 9, 25, 40, 45, 60]
[18, 50, 57, 71]
[15, 35, 43, 73]
[25, 30, 47, 48]
[27, 38, 64, 72]
[4, 59, 60, 72]
[47, 53, 55, 59, 63]
[1, 13, 24, 32, 47]
[10, 35, 52, 68]
[8, 19, 26, 31, 34]
[15, 20, 68, 69]
[2, 31, 33, 42]
[2, 6, 11, 14, 41, 60]
[20, 41, 59, 71]
[23, 26, 60, 67]
[0, 7, 29, 43, 72]
[17, 44, 58, 73]
[36, 46, 54, 67]
[26, 27, 53, 58]
[0, 15, 42, 56]
[9, 28, 33, 41]
[4, 13, 17, 31, 56]
[14, 35, 43, 46, 63]
[5, 20, 53, 54, 67]
[18, 29, 42, 49]
[22, 24, 29, 70]
[1, 38, 44, 51]
[0, 10, 18, 22, 39, 54]
[15, 33, 54, 68]
[5, 23, 28, 49]
[0, 11, 16, 17, 25]
[18, 51, 54, 68]
[36, 52, 53, 69]
[11, 25, 42, 52, 65]
[13, 33, 38, 44, 52]
[1, 22, 34, 60, 67]
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 03:23:58 PM »
Some average calculations with the caps must be made. That's it for today.
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2017, 07:24:11 PM »
Turbo multi station for the progression it's cheap and its effective. Now I need to make multi cycle tracker that proposes the best numbers to bet on. Its getting messy when playing a lot of spins with a single tracker.  All this thinking led me to a new way to play the numbers.  Turbo method can stand huge variance since it's cheap but relies on many hits
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 07:58:33 PM »
I don't want to disrupt the discussion. But so far this simple method works good for me:
http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=1658.0
 

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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 11:52:01 PM »
Marigny de Grilleau  repeater strategy

Wait for 3 repeater and star betting on it for 37 spins flat betting. When new 3 repeater comes in start betting on it too. Until you win or 37 spins you have bet. Bet only 6 numbers at time when 7th number comes drop the first number and start betting on the 7th too.

He also recommends some kind of progression: after the loss of 100 units the betsize is doubled, after the loss of 200 units the betsize is tripled and after the loss of 300 units (which he says is very seldom) we bet four times the original betsize.

Not bad and flat betting. Some where I read catch the 8 train strategy and it's quite good. How many times I have read that if it's not winning flat betting it's not a winning system.
 
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Re: Let's make a HG
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2017, 11:11:42 AM »
hi bio, i've been playing on this repeaters but still not even close to HG, the way I play on every number that come out until I make a profit and reset. for ex 5 bet 1 on 5, 22 bet 2 on 22 but still bet 1 on 5, 34 bet 3 on 34 still bet 1 on 5 and 2 on 22 and so on. it gives profit so fast but 1000 unit sometimes not enough. I also try it on split but it also didn't work as well maybe because the progression is to extreme.