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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2016, 09:39:06 PM »
having a look at this after reading this post u could all so do the 6th 7th and 8th as different progressions, obviously waiting longer takes out more risk at this point, i think after 6 with a longer progression seems good on the 7th 8th 9th 10th 
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2016, 09:52:26 PM »
Palestis, Ive got to thank you on helping to limit my bankroll by not doing massive progressive bets. Ive been betting with only 4 progressions after a dozen has missed 4 times. So I place a bet on the 5th time doing a simple progression of: 3,5,7,11. With a bankroll of 1000 units, Im up 90 units in about an hour. This is pretty decent IMO. I never went below my 1000 starting point. I had only a few times where I didnt win on my progression.

I think I will adjust my progression to 2,3,4,6 and see how it goes. This reduces risk a bit more.
If you start after a dozen has not hit in 4 spins, it's ok if you play in an online casino where only one roulette is available. In a live situation, with several roulettes active, you will see a dozen missing for more than 4 spins very often.  The 2,3,4,6 progression sure is less riskier than you original progression. .
The few times that the progression did not win, was it in consecutive triggers or intermittently?
It is important, because if it happens consecutively too often, it is not a great advantage for any system.
If it happens sporadically, at least it gives you the chance to recover before you encounter another loss.
I am not exactly sure about 4 misses and then bet, but after 7 or more misses, the chance of running into 3 consecutive failures is almost non-existent.
After 4 misses the chance of that happening is possible, though very rare.
A way to ensure a higher rate of hits is to let an entire trigger (with all its progression steps), lose (virtual loss),  and then bet heavier on the next trigger. 
It requires a lot of patience, but the certainty goes up substantially. And with high valued chips, the rewards are worth the wait.
Many players are against that, as you forego several "missed winning opportunities", but at the end the last man standing and laughing all the way to the bank is what counts.

« Last Edit: January 09, 2016, 01:18:27 AM by palestis »
 
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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2016, 10:20:17 PM »
Betting after the 4th loss I had no consecutive failures at all in a total of 267 spins.

I had 49 opportunities to bet after 4 misses, losing my progression bets four times, or a 92% win rate when betting a 4 step progression. Approx 18% of my spins I had an opportunity to begin a progression.

I will give it a try now betting after the 7th miss in a row.
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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2016, 10:41:50 PM »
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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2016, 10:42:36 PM »

Betting after the 7th loss I had no consecutive failures in a total of 322 spins. I had 16 opportunities to bet after 7 misses, losing my progression bets three times, or a 81% win rate when betting a 4 step progression. Approx 5% of my spins I had an opportunity to begin a progression.

* I'll note that betting after the 7th consecutive loss my win rate dropped compared to betting after the 4th consecutive loss. And as expected My opportunity to bet was greatly reduced down to 5% of my spins.

Ive charted it in the past... there is a "sweet" spot of misses in a row.... is something like 3, 4, 5 or 6 that happens the most frequently and I think thats where the money is to be made and the progression should begin.
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2016, 10:53:22 PM »
Betting after the 4th loss I had no consecutive failures at all in a total of 267 spins.

I had 49 opportunities to bet after 4 misses, losing my progression bets four times, or a 92% win rate when betting a 4 step progression.

I will give it a try now betting after the 7th miss in a row.
Winning 45 out of 49 betting opportunities (triggers), is an excellent winning rate. (92%). Betting only 12 numbers.
What is also important, is the fact that the 4 failures did not happen consecutively. Even 3 consecutive losses are enough to create a heartache  and drive your psychology way down. To the point you start having doubts about the system.
The losses were distributed sporadically among the wins. This is a harmless situation, considering you only bet 12 numbers in a form of a dozen. If it was a 30 number bet, it would've been a different story.
You don't really have to wait for 7 misses. This is for a live casino where many roulettes are available for tracking.  But if you do, you should expect a very good win rate.
Or you can try to track columns at the same time, and see if the system works the same way dozens do.
In any case, members should take notice of those "on the field " results and reconsider the differences between a long progression and progressions broken up in lesser steps.

 
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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2016, 11:01:21 PM »

Betting after the 7th loss I had no consecutive failures in a total of 322 spins. I had 16 opportunities to bet after 7 misses, losing my progression bets three times, or a 81% win rate when betting a 4 step progression. Approx 5% of my spins I had an opportunity to begin a progression.

* I'll note that betting after the 7th consecutive loss my win rate dropped compared to betting after the 4th consecutive loss. And as expected My opportunity to bet was greatly reduced down to 5% of my spins.

Ive charted it in the past... there is a "sweet" spot of misses in a row.... is something like 3, 4, 5 or 6 that happens the most frequently and I think thats where the money is to be made and the progression should begin.
Provided that these figures are not a coincidence, then you know what to do. 4 misses and then bet 4 times. It gives you many more betting opportunities and less waiting time. If it works then leave at that.
If it happens consistently in the future, then you know you got a good system in your hands.
At the same time keep tracking the number of consecutive failures.
If it rarely happens to have 2 consecutive failures and never 3, then the level of certainty skyrockets.
 

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2016, 11:07:34 PM »
Okay just looked at my almost 600 spins. From that data my particular sweet spot is after the second miss. Below is the count out of 589 spins.

3- 54x
4- 21x
5- 40x
6- 27x
7- 13x
8- 8x
9- 3x
10- 1x
11- 3x
12- 2x
13- 2x
14- 1x
15- 1x
16- 1x

Looking at this, I would begin my progression after the 2nd miss.
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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2016, 11:08:25 PM »
im on loothog right now and have seen 7 loses in a row after the 7 misses in a dozen its called 'steady dozen' good program, u can put in any number of misses in a dozen and track results 
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2016, 11:16:20 PM »
If it rarely happens to have 2 consecutive failures and never 3, then the level of certainty skyrockets.

I like your thought pattern of betting larger after a failure. So far never seen two consecutive failures on both systems (4th and 7th miss in a row).

That said, betting after the second miss is just too confusing :)
 

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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2016, 11:22:29 PM »
I think different programs will give u extreme variations the only true indictor is real spin results, on this after 7 misses it frequently goes to 5,6,7 losses 
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2016, 12:35:20 AM »
Okay just looked at my almost 600 spins. From that data my particular sweet spot is after the second miss. Below is the count out of 589 spins.

3- 54x
4- 21x
5- 40x
6- 27x
7- 13x
8- 8x
9- 3x
10- 1x
11- 3x
12- 2x
13- 2x
14- 1x
15- 1x
16- 1x

Looking at this, I would begin my progression after the 2nd miss.
What do you mean by that?
After the dozen is found to be missing for 4 spins you start a 4 steps progression.
Do you mean let the first 2 steps lose (virtually) and then bet the 3rd and 4th step? or continue for 4 steps anyway?
You came to the conclusion that the most frequent winning range is step 3 and 4? 

 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2016, 12:51:30 AM »
More curve fitting and gambler's fallacy.
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2016, 12:52:21 AM »
are I on the same page 3- 54x, this is  1,13 then bet the 3rd dozen, only once, then wait for another 13,25 then bet 1st dozen which becomes the second progression bet ? 
 

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Re: Very Near The Infallible Method & Consistent Profit Roulette system
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2016, 12:55:28 AM »
im on loothog right now and have seen 7 loses in a row after the 7 misses in a dozen its called 'steady dozen' good program, u can put in any number of misses in a dozen and track results
What do you mean by 7 losses in a row after a dozen is missing for 7 spins?
That it went on missing for 14 spins (7+7)? If that's what you mean, that's not the issue I was discussing.
Let me know so we both talk about the same exact issue.
What I have been meaning all along it's not how far a dozen can continue missing after waiting for a predetermined number of misses. Rather how many times the entire process can fail consecutively.
Like after 7 misses of a dozen you bet that dozen for say 4 times.
The question is can it fail to show up again in 4 spins,  after you encounter the same situation? And for how many times in a row? (consecutively rather than sporadically here and there).