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jekhb76

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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2017, 08:50:49 PM »
Played just yet with Koko's adjustments and after 36 spins +102 euro.
Thanks Kav & Koko. I only have to use Koko's progression (1-2-3-4-5-6-7 on the 4 pillars when no hit) only up to lvl 1. I think when we build in a recovery system or a stronger progression, this basic form of Kav's system is unbeatable  8)
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2017, 09:12:52 PM »
Just made 59 units in 69 spins.  I went to level 12 in the progression and the drawdown was exactly 200 units.
 

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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2017, 09:19:13 PM »
I celebrated to early  :-\ :-[   just lost 400 euro. pfffff we need a better money management on this until Kav will help us a little bit more. It's a beautiful table layout and when it goes well, paid well, but if it goes bad, then there is no stopping and you loose all. the progression is not strong enough, you have to reach to deep. is there amyone who has a better method? would like to make my 400 euro back. pffff :(
 

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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2017, 10:09:41 PM »
The first thing I would do is segment that 400 euro in your mind into 4 banks of 100 units.   Then maybe work on a few sessions of the Wrangler for 25 units each?

Get back 100 euros and re-assess?

If we play the Kav using the D'Alembert, you are right, we need deeper pockets.

EDIT: Of course I failed to ask you what your bankroll is because the Wrangler needs some bankroll to fight in the depper stages too.  I just played a session where I needed to cry "halt!" and segment the debt...

The Talos Core Progression is way more powerful than the Wrangler because he throws in a DZ+DZ bet for the third coup attempt and then he sweeps a couple more DZ+DZ bets for only 2 in a row to restore profit; pretty difficult to get past it.
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2017, 10:15:27 PM »
yeah i know, but there must be some good money management to make on this system? only 7 units to make a decent recovery coup.
 

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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2017, 02:04:57 PM »
Koko,

Thank you very much for your feedback!
Did you play on European roulette?

European roulette.
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2017, 07:00:54 PM »
(re-post from here)

Let's take a corner bet (4 numbers).
The corner bet has a 50% chance of appearing within 6 spins. We count from hit to hit. When it hits within 6 spins we record a A and if it goes beyond 6 spins without a hit we record a B.
H: Hit
M: Miss
A: Hit within 6 spins
B: Hit after 6 spins

M M H (A) M M M H (A) M M M M M M M M M M M M M M M H (B) M M M H (A) M M H (A) M M M M M M M M H (B) etc.

We then have a sequence of AABAAB... etc.

So what I do is count the spins between hits. Dividing the sequences in A or B, each of which has a 50% chance. We have created some sort of even chance and we record the results. These results are less extreme than your common Red Black High Low etc. results.

A further characteristic of this approach is that you can have even more information. For example you know that in average (long term) the H will be ~1/9 of total spins. Because we bet 4 out of 37 numbers, 37/4 = 9,25. All B sequences are not the same. A very long B sequence (MMMMMMMMMMMMMMH) can draw the average too much away from the 1/9 and (so to speak) increases slightly the probability of a correction.
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2017, 07:11:53 PM »
Hey Kav, I think this also can apply just as well to your Paroli 5 too!  If we leave off the one betting and use the AB registry and even delay the paroli into multiple sessions?

I mean with an increase in accuracy I think it can be amazing how much higher we can get it to climb?
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2017, 07:12:33 PM »
Indeed!
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2017, 03:09:24 AM »
I have updated the progression. Listen to kav' s advice I use positive progression. Only increase when hit. When reach level 20 only flat bet and pray ;)
When anytime reach profit during progression then restart from level 1.
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2017, 05:19:36 PM »
What about using other events to create a registry?

Like I was thinking about 2 numbers and tracking which number comes in first before the other.  Like, 0 and 17; if 0 comes in your registry is Z, a second 0 and its ZZ and then the 17 comes in and its ZZS.

The goal would be to take advantage of certain registries where we are more likely to hit one number or the other.'

I also had a side thought where if we wanted to simulate something like the Dozens, we could make a registry of 3 numbers, like say 0, 17, & 1; ZSO.'

If we can use this to gain accuracy for inside numbers, it would be very powerful.

It might even become a system if we could just increase the accuracy of the number NOT to bet.

For instance, betting the splits 0-1, 0-2, 1-2.  All we would have to determine more accurately, is which number is LEAST likely to come up first and bet the split that omits that number.
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2017, 12:14:04 AM »
Ok here is another idea!

What about creating an expectation registry!?

So, if a number hits within 37 spins, its a HIT which is H.  If it hits -74 spins its a MISS which is M.  If it hits -111 spins its a MISS but is scored as MM and of course -148 is MMM etc.

Of course there is always the back to back miss probabala where can compute the chances of a miss back to back on any base percentage chance of hitting...
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2017, 12:47:44 PM »

Hi,
Today I have played this system in the Sands. I have modified it a little bit. I added one street (7-8-9) place one unit.
Played corners: 14-15-17-18 with 2 units, 0-1-2-3 with 1 unit, 19-20-22-23 with 1 unit, 25-26-28-29 with 1 unit, and 31-32-34-35 with 1 unit.  Like this total 7 unit played. I eliminated the 2 lines from original version, so every hit provide profit now. Covered number: 23 (only 1 number less from original)
I also applied the following progression:1-2-3-4-5-6-7-and so on. Means if miss the pillars then increase the bet. If hit the pillars or street, then no change in the bet, play until you reach profit. The highest bet was 6 units on each. (1 unit was 5 dollar)I played totally about 100 spins, and over 2.000 dollar profit. My initial bankroll was 5.000
Before playing it I also tested on Roulette RX. It was very successful no fail over a thousand spins. I also tested Kavoruas Bet, but finally I've chosen 4 Pillars to play in real.

Thank you for sharing this system!

One question please so I can understand the progression 1-2-3-4-5-6-7.

If 1st spin is lost then I place 2 units one street (7-8-9)Played corners: 14-15-17-18 with 4 units, 0-1-2-3 with 2 unit, 19-20-22-23 with 2 unit, 25-26-28-29 with 2 unit, and 31-32-34-35 with 2 unit.  Like this total 14 unit played.

If 2nd spin is lost then I place 3 units one street (7-8-9)Played corners: 14-15-17-18 with 6 units, 0-1-2-3 with 3 unit, 19-20-22-23 with 3 unit, 25-26-28-29 with 3 unit, and 31-32-34-35 with 3 unit.  Like this total 21 unit played.
If 3rd spin is lost then I place 4 units one street (7-8-9)Played corners: 14-15-17-18 with 8 units, 0-1-2-3 with 4 unit, 19-20-22-23 with 4 unit, 25-26-28-29 with 4 unit, and 31-32-34-35 with 4 unit.  Like this total 28 unit played.......and so on ?Is that correct ?
And if at 3rd spin for example there is a hit, then back to 1st bet ?

Can someone please give a little help ?

Panagiotis from Greece.

Thanks in advance
« Last Edit: April 18, 2017, 01:09:17 PM by kav »
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2017, 01:56:06 AM »

Hi Panagiotis,

yes, that is the correct progression from original idea. But I have changed it to positive progression.
That means you only increase when you hit. If miss keep the same betting.
For example:
Step1: initial betiing 1 unit, you miss then keep the same 1 unit until hit.
Step2: progression to 2 units, if hit then go for 3 units, if miss then keep 2 units
Step3: progression to 3 units, if hit then go for 4 units, if miss then keep 3 units
and so on...
If you hit the core corner 14-15-17-18 you will be at profit immediately, then restart from unit 1
It is very rare you goes up to step20 but sometimes happen. When it does start praying :)
The required bankroll: 500 units
« Last Edit: May 02, 2017, 07:46:57 AM by kav »
 
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Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2017, 06:16:25 AM »
So the pillars always have double unit from all the other bets right ?
If you reach step 15 the pillars bet will be 30 units correct ?