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Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to beat RNG roulette (tips)
« Last post by Real on February 17, 2018, 06:11:41 PM »
Well, this thread was originally part of the hot numbers thread. 

I know you want to be a good moderator, but sometimes wielding your god like moderation powers requires careful thought and consideration.  Within that post was information and direction that has never seen the light of day on this forum or really any other.  Currently there are Russians exploiting RNGs around the world.  It's the lead topic at the upcoming risk conference in Las Vegas.
(I'll be attending)

It has everything to do with hot numbers and everything to do with winning.  Do you want more of this kind of post, or do you want more of some simple minded poster posting how we need to regress and unlearn things.  The post was tongue and cheek but contained a starting list of how to and lose ideas on how to think differently.   Something this forum definitely need. 

Good grief!
Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Four basic ways to play.
« Last post by Reyth on February 17, 2018, 06:01:24 PM »
I do #3, I kinda have to. :)

Of course I am speaking of RNG and restting the session under certain conditions.
Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by biturbo on February 17, 2018, 06:01:05 PM »
So I will start posting my (virtual or real) runs, just to keep track. Today I just virtually played with 400 real turns from Wiesbaden casino.
I kinda met a roller coaster of a run, with very good mixture of wins, losses and b2b. The statistics:
Among 400 turns, 56 triggers were met:
-26 "YXX" triggers:  11 hits on the first bet / 2 on the second / 2 on the third / 11 losses = 57.7 % hit
-18 "XYX" triggers: 8 / 2 / 1 / 7 losses = 61.1 % hits
-12 "XXY" triggers: 4 / 1 / 2 / 5 losses = 58.3 % hits (so no real difference between the three kinds of triggers on this run)

That totals a quite unusually bad 23 / 5 / 5 / 23. The good news were that, when we hit, we very often did it on the first bet of the attack.
The other good news were that the "stop betting" red flag (1st and 2nd bet were from the X dozen), worked fantastic. 4 red flags, 4 times we avoided losing unnecessary money at the third bet, it didn't hit.

Regarding B2Bs:
-1x 4 B2B  :'(
-5x 2 B2B
-9x isolated losses

I tried to simulate the win/loss:
-Using ahlidap porgression explained above: +9 units profit at the end. Minimum bankroll reached was -34 units.
-Palestis progression, as explained at the original method on the web front page, ignoring B2Bs: +8 units. Minimum bankroll reached was -46.5.
-Palestis progression, but waiting for one virtual loss in order to bet, then staying until a win came: +10 units. Minimum reached was -22.5. However, only 20 triggers were bet... among 400 turns, it can get very boring, one really needs other tables to observe in parallel.

For the Dalembert (+1/-2) progression I have again a newbie stupid question: what is the starting point? 1 unit? Or a random 5 units, in order to have room under and above to escalate/descend?

My comments: Not the best run to test, but even it was a quite bad one we made a profit at all systems. Probably had to do with the high amount of first hit bets, most of them coming immediately after the B2Bs.
I don't know if I am understanding something wrong, but I have the feeling that we are losing good win opportunities by betting at "level 1" during win streaks. When i.e. 5 wins on a row appear, the usual thing is that only the first 1 or 2 wins are at high stakes, then the BR hits a new maximum/recovers from past losses... then 3 bets at level 1 until the next loss appears... So we don't really get the chance to come into high profits, what would be absolutely possible at a system with this high hit quote + bets paid 3:1. I will probably test the inverse bank management (going up when winning, down when losing).
Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by biturbo on February 17, 2018, 05:33:55 PM »
WOW. Absolutely fantastic, ahlidap!!! Many thanks!

Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by ahlidap on February 17, 2018, 04:23:36 PM »
Hello all,
I've just updated the software (please see attached image)

  • Fixed the bug on a hit, making progression goes -2
  • Added toggles to chose what kind of bets do you want to use (you can choose now to play only dozens for example)
  • Added Unit value (if you put 0.25, at 3rd bet, software will display a value of 0.75, instead 3)
  • Added betting steps (How many times to bet a dozen, defaults to 3)
For those who missed, details on how to access software are here:


EDIT: If you don't see the changes, please force page reload (usually CTRL + F5)
Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Four basic ways to play.
« Last post by MickyP on February 17, 2018, 04:09:43 PM »
Another one for the list is:
5. Sporadic play on one or more tables (virtual play breaks the play cycle).
Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to beat RNG roulette (tips)
« Last post by ahlidap on February 17, 2018, 03:58:30 PM »
It obviously need some hardware:

  • get ball
  • release ball
  • timer
  • read / display result
  • compute statistics
  • some motion control
  • ...
Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by jerome26b on February 17, 2018, 03:29:59 PM »

with the use of 2 virtual loss like you do, are you still applying some red flags ? Which red flags you use for xxy and xyx triggers ?

Roulette Systems / Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Last post by palestis on February 17, 2018, 02:37:16 PM »
As you have several roulettes to chose from, you will be seeing  a variety of situations.
If one roulette has a trigger ready and you haven't seen any virtual loss (losses), in one of the other roulettes, sure you can start betting on the roulette that displays a trigger. If you win there in no reason to stay in that roulette, if another  roulette will has a trigger. Or one or two virtual losses. 
The presence of virtual losses means that you can bet with a bigger chip. (since you saved the money that you would've lost if you were there at the beginning).
Higher certainty justifies a higher value chip. 
That way, the profits add up faster, or recovery will come much sooner. 

Gambling Philosophy / Re: Can we unlearn things that limit us?
« Last post by MickyP on February 17, 2018, 01:11:20 PM »
Mike, I really don't mind your posts because you put a great of effort into trying to explain the point you are presenting and you are prepared to discuss issues even with the weakest of players. Even when you were rude, you tried to explain your rudeness; good for you.

If someone that is willfully nasty at the best of times suddenly develops a conscience and treats you well, will you not be suspicious of their behaviour?
Agree or disagree. I reserve the right to associate in word with whoever I choose on the forum and ignore others I consider not worthy.

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