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Reviews: Casinos Online and... Offline / Re: My Bet Voyager Account Emptied!
« Last post by BioBrick on Yesterday at 01:13:42 PM »
Last time I made deposit of 100€. I played the bullseye system and my account grew around 150€. Then I received a message from Bet voayger about their freespins weekends. I played those frees pins and made winning of around 60€. Bet voayager also has event lottery and I won 12€ by playing it. OK, my account was around 210€ after those winnings. Then I continued with bullseye system and account grew to 290. Then I had that bad streak and My account dropped to 216€. OK, I made few recovery sessions and my account stood 231€ after this. Next time I logged in  my account was 0€ and I had a message at my message box that reads:

Date: 28.04.2017 04:09:39 ProjectFrom: Support Subject: Expired bonus Dear *,

 The term for your bonus has ended, therefore all bonus funds have been deducted from your account.
 You may go to our Promotions page to find out more about new promotions which you can take part in.

 Regards,
 The BetVoyager Support Team

So by taking part to those promotions they are able to take all my money. I did not lose money and wagering requirements for those promotions were not met.

But how the hell they can take all my money from the account?

Those promotions are traps more you win more you need to wager to get it. And while on bonus all losses are yours and winnings are casinos if wagering is not met.

But why I lost it all? Since the wins  were around 70€.

Bet voyager is a scam casino and I'm getting insane.

I have tried to contact the support by skype and by the internal mail. But no answer.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by jerome26b on Yesterday at 09:13:20 AM »
Rinad,

you make a good point. when i was talking about 4 spins gain when hitting it was with playing 2 clusters or the 5 number variation. In that case you lose too much and the ratio hit/gain is not enough except if you hit many time your main number. with the one street scenario hitting the split in the first 21 spins make you gain 7 spins on average which is better.
One of the key you pointed out and is a key playing the system is the psychological aspect. It can happen this can make you crazy when you see the numbers hitting suddenly always around your main number and street you play. And manage the fact your number can hit just when you switch. it can lead you in a 'steaming' or 'tilt' mode if you are not prepared too. I was little bit in this situation yesterday afternoon and realized the best i had to do is just leaving take the loss and stop for few hours. Then in the evening i recouped easily my loss...
At this moment i'm still playing in the random mode, selecting numbers before and not paying attention about the history. i had the experience last day i saw the 5 hitting maybe 5 times in 30 spins while i was playing another street then the 5 was the number i was supposed to play. Instinctively when you see that you are not inclined to play it but i did and guess what the 5 spun again two times quickly and i did +200 in less than ten minutes it was my fastest game.

jerome.
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Roulette Systems / Re: The 4 Pillars strategy
« Last post by willtherock on Yesterday at 05:16:17 AM »
With koko's adaptation, I've yet to see three misses in a row. I'm sure it will happen, but in all likelihood waiting for a two miss trigger may be more realistic / waiting less. You hit very often with this method, and in fact, in my first trial with it I left the game after hitting the street bet koko added because I hit my goal of 200units. Excited to see where this one goes.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by TERMINATOR on Yesterday at 01:08:24 AM »
Rinad, I noticed on your color coded card (where you play streets), that spin 44 has 8/6, and spin #46 has 7/8. Is this correct? It seems everything else is in sequential order going from lowest to highest, (from 3 to 9), except for #44 and 46 which goes from 8 to 7. #44 seems like it should be "7/6" and #46 should be "8/7" (or something like that).

Thanks! I love your method by the way. Have had good success experimenting with it.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by Rinad on Yesterday at 12:12:32 AM »


   when i said 3$ Terminator, you can play 1 chip on #2, 1 chip on split 1/2, and 1 chip on 2/3.
same principal. not too risky if you dont want to risk too much.
Rinad
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by Rinad on Yesterday at 12:09:04 AM »
Rinad, if we go the entire 61 spins without hitting, what is the total amount of units wagered? Thanks.

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hey guys, the colored chart is what i use when i dont play the meedle number of a street and so it tells me what the bets are. it is as good as the other, or very,very close.

What number(s) are you playing in this instance? Are you not playing a main number and 2 splits?
if you play a street and want to play strickly streets, lets said your main number is 19. so you put 2 chips on 19 and 3 chips on that street. if you dont want to play the street you can place 1 chip on 19, 2 chips on 16 and 2 chips on 22, and it is the same thing. just a matter of preference. they both are close enough.hope that helps.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by TERMINATOR on Yesterday at 12:06:53 AM »
680/700 $ is the total bank if you play the full progression. it can be played to a 2 to 1 ratio. then 400 $ is the loss .
that is for a 5 $ cluster.
it can be played at a 3 $ bet as well , to win 100 or losing 300 $

Rinad, can you clarify what you mean by a 2-to-1 ratio?
And when you say it can be played at a $3 bet, you mean with one main number and 1 split (instead of 2 splits)?

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i look at how much units to i need to make, and then look at the chart to tell me what my next bet should be. that is much better then to go back 5 spins,

Can you give an example of your play in this instance, Rinad? (Instead of going back 5 spaces)

Thanks.

Thanks.
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by Rinad on Yesterday at 12:01:15 AM »


terminator,

680/700 $ is the total bank if you play the full progression. it can be played to a 2 to 1 ratio. then 400 $ is the loss .
that is for a 5 $ cluster.
it can be played at a 3 $ bet as well , to win 100 or losing 300 $

one thing i like to mention Jerome is about the split hits. you are right , they make you gain 4 to 5 extra spins. but those spins count for much when you hit them often.
everytime i hit hit a split, to be on the top of my game and not to overbet, i look at how much units to i need to make, and then look at the chart to tell me what my next bet should be. that is much better then to go back 5 spins, because i have notice many time that i was betting too much in comparison to how much i needed, and found myself making that mistake.
so to get as many spins as possible, it is always better to just see how much you need to make your bet.
if you really struggle in some game, it is okay to give up previous profit and start a new game. some players dont like making high bets and i anderstand, specialy online or airball roulette. i am very suspicious when it comes to casinos.
at a real live table i feel safer. just my opinion.
best,
Rinad
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by TERMINATOR on April 29, 2017, 11:42:14 PM »
Rinad, if we go the entire 61 spins without hitting, what is the total amount of units wagered? Thanks.

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hey guys, the colored chart is what i use when i dont play the meedle number of a street and so it tells me what the bets are. it is as good as the other, or very,very close.

What number(s) are you playing in this instance? Are you not playing a main number and 2 splits?
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Roulette Systems / Re: Merge Street
« Last post by Rinad on April 29, 2017, 11:41:45 PM »


 hey guys, the colored chart is what i use when i dont play the meedle number of a street and so it tells me what the bets are. it is as good as the other, or very,very close.
it goes to 50 spins in the progression but can be extended longer.
I dont stay on a street if it does not produce any results within at the most 12/18 spins. something i have learned is that it does not matter if a number hit 3 times or more. if it is hot i would jump on it and dont mind playing a back to back. it is contrary to what our instinct tells us, but unless i have been winning with another number withing the last 15 spins or so, if i see one get on fire i would not hesitate. it is amazing what can happend.
on the chart that i have, as you see the right section, it is where i write the street numbers, and erase old ones. now if i have a choice between 2 streets i would chose the latest.  but if i see that one street has a better history and it still is strong i like that one also.  what is most important is not to stay on a dead one.
i find myself jumping often only to see my street winning again, but dont let that drive you nuts. sometime i change street and hit my new main number reight of way. it is all part of this crazy game,trust me. if your split hit within your street you can make it your main number. i see often the same split hit over and over and i think it is a sign to go for that one. nothing is guarranty. playing for less then 200$  is not a sin. it is all these small wins that add up at the end. after 25 sessions i never show a loss. so what happends in between is just "trades" been made.
not to play a sleeper number or street, unless (it is really,really past the 3rd standard deviation is not a good idea)

keep me posted, remember to keep track of all sessions so you can see results at the end. and making up a few hundreds is no big deals. i had to be many times down 1200 $ and came back a winner.
another great thing i do; when i hit a main number i like to parlay the bet just one time. if you hit it you are golden, if you dont,it does not hurt that much since you just won.
God bless
Rinad
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