### Author Topic: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?  (Read 7999 times)

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#### BlueAngel

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2016, 12:05:36 AM »
Ok coding this up now.  Thanks. : )

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`5 DIM ld(20)10 RANDOMIZE TIMER20 r = INT(RND * 38) ' 0 is 0, 37 is 0030 IF r = 0 OR r = 37 OR r = 20 OR r = 23 THEN 80 '4 number selection40 IF r = 1 OR r = 3 OR r = 4 OR r = 6 OR r = 7 OR r = 9 OR r = 10 OR r = 12 OR r = 13 OR r = 15 THEN 110 '20 number selection50 IF r = 16 OR r = 18 OR r = 25 OR r = 27 OR r = 28 OR r = 30 OR r = 31 OR r = 33 OR r = 34 OR r = 36 THEN 110 '20 number selection60 'miss70 l = l + 1: ls = ls + 1: GOTO 2080 ' 4 number selection90 w4 = w4 + 1: GOSUB 1000 'loss streak management100 GOTO 140 'output110 '20 number selection120 w20 = w20 + 1: GOSUB 1000 'loss streak management130 GOTO 140 'output140 'output150 LOCATE 1, 1: PRINT "Wins:"; w4 + w20160 PRINT "Losses:"; l170 PRINT "Loss Streaks:"; ml180 FOR i = 1 TO 20190 PRINT ld(i);: NEXT i200 IF w4 + w20 >= 16000000 THEN END210 GOTO 201000 'loss streak management1010 IF ml < ls THEN ml = ls1015 ld(ls) = ld(ls) + 11020 ls = 0: RETURN`

Your win rate is 63.16%.  Practically speaking, we can discount loss streaks 17,15 & 14, you WILL have to deal with a loss streak of 13 in normal session play (obviously rare but expected over prolonged periods); this sort of thing is negotiable -- to find the odds of a loss streak occurring, add up the total of all streaks in the output and then add up each loss streak up to the one you wish to get stats on and then divide that total by the overall total number output which will generate a percentage which can then be expressed in odds.

I would assume that your progression will not withstand 13 hits in a row and thus a more complicated loss recovery system will be required?

Btw, why does this work better on an American wheel again?

So it's almost like 2 columns bet,no better.

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2016, 12:44:06 AM »
The best contiguous bet with the least expense is below.
GROUP A (blue), 4 streets:  1-2-3,   13-14-15,   22-23-24,  34-35-36   12 numbers.
GROUP B: (red), streets 4-5-6, 31-32-33 and splits 16/19 and 18/21    10 numbers

For larger contiguous coverage you bet 7-12  and 25-30 plus the 2nd column, with option the 0/00 split.
15 contiguous numbers on one side and 7 directly across. If 8-11-26-29 hits you get paid in the column and the DS.

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2016, 12:51:40 AM »
Why don't you just bet the numbers as they lay on the wheel if you're wanting to play sectors?

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2016, 01:20:21 AM »
Why don't you just bet the numbers as they lay on the wheel if you're wanting to play sectors?
Of course you can do that, and you can do it for any sector. Not necessarily for the ones I described.
Any contiguous  sector or split diametrically across or in several short segments qualifies.
I thought the original issue was, how do we cover the most contiguous area with the least amount of chips. Other than that flat bets on sectors will do just fine.
You see in European casinos \$5 minimum usually means the minimum value of each chip. So for 12 numbers you will need \$60. Where in American casinos with \$5 minimum, 12 numbers will cost \$12.
That is y some people are looking for shortcuts

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2016, 01:35:04 AM »
Bet 1\$ straight up on 00,8,29
Bet 1st & 3rd column 10\$ each
You are betting this way 23 continuous numbers plus a few on the other side.

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2016, 01:42:45 AM »

Also you can bet from 5\$ on columns instead of 10\$ each.here is the 23 number group.

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2016, 01:19:00 PM »
with the new Dutch American table all these proplemesare moveved to the past. The roulette game is much more simple and it will give much more pleasant. The table is is very suitable for the peaple with a small bankroll.
The Dutch table has the future and is a novum after a stillstand in develloping roulettegames for decca`s.

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##### Re: american wheel layout , columns bet flaw?
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2016, 11:18:37 PM »
imo using virtual play u can bet 2nd  or 3rd column at times,  and the d.str close  to zeros[both opposite sides], not so many units to spend ,very big hit rate , i tell u  one more time this wheel offers amazing triggers on its own !