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What would you do?

Tell absolutely no one
3 (23.1%)
Tell only a few close friends
2 (15.4%)
Talk about your system without revealing it
4 (30.8%)
Sell your system
1 (7.7%)
Give it away
3 (23.1%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: June 12, 2016, 08:28:42 PM

Author Topic: What if you found the Holy Grail?  (Read 3387 times)

DrTalos

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2016, 02:36:14 PM »
So, bebediktus, if you have a winning system, you would share it here? Clever.
  No wonder you cannot have one...
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2016, 03:28:52 PM »
So, bebediktus, if you have a winning system, you would share it here? Clever.
  No wonder you cannot have one...
In opposite to you, i usually win in this game, and very good know when is possible to win when not.
Roulette is like your enemy in ring for fighting. To beat it - you must be simply stronger than your enemy , know his weak points etc.
But that is not system job, that is job of long hour trainings at home... simply are no other way. You all simply believe in some miracle stick - it not exist , but exist hard job at home with different simulation programs and wheel  similar to this against   which you will play in casino ...
« Last Edit: April 19, 2016, 03:31:00 PM by Bebediktus »
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2016, 03:45:47 PM »
So, bebediktus, if you have a winning system, you would share it here? Clever.
  No wonder you cannot have one...
What's your problem exactly?
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2016, 03:59:51 PM »
So, bebediktus, if you have a winning system, you would share it here? Clever.
  No wonder you cannot have one...

DrTalos, Would you be so kind as to give us a descriptive thought on your methodology? I gather from your comment that you are basically "grinding" to get your winnings as you said the task is 8 hours a day and boring. Would you care to offer any more advise?
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2016, 06:31:02 PM »
Kav, he implied I am a liar, I implied he is an idiot.
  I have no problems. Every time I pocket my money, I think of people like him, unable to accept what they cannot understand or have. They protect themselves saying is not possible because they cannot stand that they aren't able to get it.
  In the last 2 years and a half I got more than 400.000$, do you think his opinion is somehow relevant to me. He can keeps is opinion while I keep my money and my system. Win-win...
  The fact is that I am playing right now, and I get bored, so this is a distraction.
  Anyway, because of the question in this thread, I gave my answer. Simple and straightforward. Some users of this site asked me privately and politely informations about my system, and they get some. Not enough to solve the riddle (unless they are smart, devoted and analyze every hint I gave them) but something to work with.
  I have no intention to sell my system, and sure I will not reveal it for free (25 years of work cannot be wasted). I think there is more than 1 winning system, and I am sure who is in the same position as me decided to do the same: keep it secret without exceptions. Probably I am the dumbest of them all, wasting my time in a forum like this one, with people so shortminded.
 
Bebediktus, my dream should be a big one, because allowed me to move to US, grant a Visa, live in in a big house (rented, not enough credit history to start a mortgage). Well, after all has been said that if you work hard on your dreams they became reality. Yeah, I know, even these words of wisdom are fool's gold.
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2016, 07:15:13 PM »
Kav, he implied I am a liar, I implied he is an idiot.
Oh, I didn't see his comment.
Now please everyone just focus on the topic.
Thanks
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2016, 07:43:43 PM »
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Bebediktus, my dream should be a big one, because allowed me to move to US, grant a Visa, live in in a big house (rented, not enough credit history to start a mortgage)
So what you do here ? You, who wins millions... what interest is in to the small forum ???
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2016, 08:10:01 PM »
Talos option would be 'tell no one, but brag about it on a roulette forum' :P
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2016, 08:36:23 PM »
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Bebediktus, my dream should be a big one, because allowed me to move to US, grant a Visa, live in in a big house (rented, not enough credit history to start a mortgage)
So what you do here ? You, who wins millions... what interest is in to the small forum ???

Millions? He ONLY makes $300,000 a year  :o
 

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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2016, 08:51:37 PM »
I guess is OT, but because you asked, I reply. I am here to encourage you all to keep trying in your search of the HG. This was in fact my first post here, and I believe in it since.
  So many people keeps saying the roulette cannot be beaten, I say the opposite. If they are legit, I am too.
 
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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2016, 09:00:54 PM »
I guess is OT, but because you asked, I reply. I am here to encourage you all to keep trying in your search of the HG. This was in fact my first post here, and I believe in it since.
  So many people keeps saying the roulette cannot be beaten, I say the opposite. If they are legit, I am too.

Dr Talos, I am reading through your previous posts throughout the forum and learning a few of your techniques. We are all here to share ideas and gain insight. Good luck!. Good luck!
« Last Edit: April 19, 2016, 09:08:52 PM by Jake007 »
 
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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2017, 07:27:36 PM »
Hello, 

I have to be honest I didn't know where to post it and I finally took a post of DrTalos about the most relevant way to say it. Finally I found my way and i can say now i'm winning money from the devil. i know already all the people that will say everything and what i will say is not so different than the ones found their HG and just laughing at the end about the scepticals. I will not give my system for sure and because i'm playing online maybe I will just find the way to prove I'm winning. I have just something to say and it was very important in my path to the HG. first of all I used all my experience and frustration around the game, I'm posting in drTalos topic cause without his topic probably I would not have find the ressources mentally to continue and have hopes. secondly I will say the decisive point is at a moment I just decided to forget about everything I read about on forums and everywhere and just work by myself and finally I found something, the idea like MrTalos was saying so many times.... I was so focus about finding the drTalos system at a moment that my mind was stucked in nowhere and I was not able to just have a deep reflection around the game by myself. I decided to scratch all of this and try to find my own way. The funny thing is the fact I decided at that moment that will be my last try around this game cause I'm so busy as well with my work.
let's be clear directly my system is completely different than the Talos one, I don't use any progression at that moment (but maybe it can be even more effective I will see in the future)
so it's a flat betting system/strategy with not really a stop win stop loss cause there's no need. I have anyway some triggers to decide to finish the game and it's something I worked the most to have a timing about the system. I was playing some systems last moment(the one based on streets of Rinad where I won a lot at the beginning then I had lost everything in few bad sessions) and I was frustrated by the fact some are involving many hours of play just to recover, lose or winning a bit more or less. my system is psychologically easy to manage, its HG for me but it can lose sometimes (but the time it's losing I earn 10 times the money usually).

so I don't have to say more at this moment just like the initial post of MrTalos that yes there's winning systems and you can have one if you work enough. I will not say I was lucky to find it  cause I really did it by myself completely but probably every material I read here and on another forum helped me to find the distance, put altogether and have my masterpiece.

my strategy is different from the talos one but at the end it recoup some qualities : weakness of the game, adaptable, so many advantages against the wheel, low bankroll to manage (even lower than the Dratalos one usually but around the same figures)  The only difference is the fact I can lose some games but my ratio by spin is higher.

Cheers

Jerome.
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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2017, 10:49:03 PM »
Jerome... I agree with you. There are systems out there... many and its found by people who continue trying and never give up.

I too have completed a system that works. Bankroll is $800 and I can make $50 per hour with it. When the system fails I lose the $800. My calculations show it will happen approximately ever 28,000 spins. By that time I am well into profit. I have played this off and on over the past 3 months making at least $3000 now. The system has not failed me (yet) and now I am not worried if it does.

Here is my dilemma... It gets boring to play it. I know, I should not complain. But I find myself bored after an hour or so. I have yet to move from $1 to $10 bets. Why make $50 per hour when I can make $500 and be done for the day! There is still risk involved and I would then have to put $8000 on the line instead of $800. I'll keep playing $1 bets at a time, but it gets boring. Making money is a hobby... but it feels good knowing I have this capability when I am in need of money. Has anyone else ever come across this strange phenomenon of making money and being bored by it?
 
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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2017, 11:35:32 PM »
 I'm cracking my brain all the time to find ways how to do money more quickly.  Often l do not mind compromise on per  hour rate stability to have a higher chance for spectacular win.
   There are 2 types of compromise in my betting strategies :
 1. Set up expectation a bit higher. Its good for higher return hunting  ( pick on graph of bank groth exploration)
 2. Set up expectations a bit lower. It's good to have stable return/ per hour.
         In first case ,most of the time,  it's hoovering around zero position with ocasional very good vinning sessions ( good for online) . In second case it's really boring occupation, wich can be compared with boring job.
 
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Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2017, 12:21:57 AM »
Hello guys,

Yes you put your fingers to the real dilemma, I just figured out now that I have to find a balance between entertainment (if I can have it) and the time spent at the table. Time is money and I have a good job as IT freelancer to get good money and new challenges with maybe better long term opportunities. In another way I'm 42 and I'm in a transition in my career where I studied other things and I would like to make a move so maybe if I can secure some money a month it will help me to do it (I have a wife and a young 9 year old kid). I just want now just to enjoy the strategy I found and play it for more months to pass all the steps I need to evolve (I just play with one euro units bets now) and with the risk evolved I think i can play without any problem 10 euros the bets when I will have the bankroll to try a shot.
I don't want to stay hundreds hours at the same bet units so I will take some risks at a moment to have a jump and save time. If I fail I know my strategy win at the end and I can inject money if necessary in a very bad streak but I want to avoid that.
I know I will have some other problems soon playing online, I don't think it will affect me so early cause the 2-3 sites I'm playing they already took some money of me ;-)
Just strange when you really found your winning system you're feeling confortable but other problems arise.

Cheers

Jerome

 
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