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Trilobite

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Re: How to Get The Bank to Play Your Game
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2016, 12:18:11 PM »

 Trilo

 Can you explain your method in more detail.

I bet on dozens, and I use a 9 step up as you lose progression.

What is your total bankroll for this ?

10 session bankrolls of 66 units being a lifetime bankroll of 660 units.


How much of it for your bankroll do  you use for your first stage ?


First stage is 3 rounds each stopping with a 38 unit win target or 28 unit loss. Here I could theoretically win 114 units or lose 84 units.
Second stage is 2 rounds each stopping with a 23 unit win target or a 43 unit loss. Here I could theoretically win 46 units or lose 86 units.
Third stage is 1 round stopping with a 14 unit win target or a 66 unit loss. Here I could theoretically win 14 units or lose 66 units.


How many spins do you actually bet in your 500 spins ?


Bets are placed on about 75% of total spins.

500 spins takes about 5x 3hours = 15 hours in a Bricks and Mortar ( B&M) casino .Do you really bet for all that time ?

My method suits the personal permanence principle, so sessions can be carried forward and completed whenever convenient.


What do you mean by level selection ?


As stated I play the dozens, so for this a level selection is one that wins 12/37 attempts in the long run taking into account all the volatility and variance one can expect from a 12/37 scenario.

   
Thanks

You’re welcome.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 01:09:30 PM by Trilobite »
 

scepticus

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Re: How to Get The Bank to Play Your Game
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2016, 01:11:50 PM »
oh ! Guys ! Come on ! Come on !
I explained  why I play Hit and Run but that is allied to my Bet  Selection so I am  not  using Hit and Run by itself as you guys seem to think and it is not based on psychology LOL . Small profits add up so don't sneer at them  .
ALL of us play in THE SHORT TERM so, yes, we play shorter terms than you but you also have to choose WHAT to bet- and when , don't you ? What we are saying is that we PROFIT with what we do so just what is your criticism worth when compared to our profit ?   
Our profit is the REALITY !
Your criticism is the HYPOTHESIS  based on your misunderstanding of Hit and Run .

scepticus anyone can make a claim that they profit but it doesn't really count for much by itself. There are already some doing that on this forum and it just leads to petty and pointless bickering.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by hit and run but let me put this question to you-

If two players are using the exact same system is it your contention that the one using hit and run will do better than the one who isn't?

If your position is that hit and run is kind of built into the system itself then I'll agree with you, but that's not what I understand by hit and run. When most players talk about hit and run they mean just a kind of add-on to any system, which, according to them, gives them better results than if they stay at the tables for longer, regardless of the system they're using.

What I am doing here , rotaman, is trying to counter the argument that  Hit and Run does not work.  Sneering at Hit and Run that it is psychobabble or " the best you can do" cuts no ice with me. I don't know what you mean by Hit and Run being " built into the system itself " means so can you explain further ?
Do I think that Hit and Run is superior to Stay and Play using the same system ? Yes . I do. Assuming that  the Stay and Play Bettor is prepared to bet at only one table until his session ends . In the event of the dreaded Long Run occurring  the Stay and Play player has lost all his bankroll and accrued profits while the Hit and Run player still has his profits won from previous tables . Small profits really do add up .
 

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Re: How to Get The Bank to Play Your Game
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2016, 01:33:00 PM »

 Trilo

 Can you explain your method in more detail.

I bet on dozens, and I use a 9 step up as you lose progression.

What is your total bankroll for this ?

10 session bankrolls of 66 units being a lifetime bankroll of 660 units.


How much of it for your bankroll do  you use for your first stage ?


First stage is 3 rounds each stopping with a 38 unit win target or 28 unit loss. Here I could theoretically win 114 units or lose 84 units.
Second stage is 2 rounds each stopping with a 23 unit win target or a 43 unit loss. Here I could theoretically win 46 units or lose 86 units.
Third stage is 1 round stopping with a 14 unit win target or a 66 unit loss. Here I could theoretically win 14 units or lose 66 units.


How many spins do you actually bet in your 500 spins ?


Bets are placed on about 75% of total spins.

500 spins takes about 5x 3hours = 15 hours in a Bricks and Mortar ( B&M) casino .Do you really bet for all that time ?

My method suits the personal permanence principle, so sessions can be carried forward and completed whenever convenient.


What do you mean by level selection ?


As stated I play the dozens, so for this a level selection is one that wins 12/37 attempts in the long run taking into account all the volatility and variance one can expect from a 12/37 scenario.
   
Thanks

You’re welcome.

Thanks for that detailed explanation Trilo.
Your betting  not confined to one visit  is surprising since most of us talk about our " session" being one visit.
I am a bit puzzled about your 10 sessions each of 66 units when you talk about 3 rounds of possible 28  loss and 2 rounds with possible 43 unit loss and Third round with a possible 66 unit loss.
Do you mean a total loss of 66 units over the 6 rounds ? The first losing 28 units , the second losing 15 units and the third losing 23 units ?
If so what do you mean by a" round "- 37 perhaps  ? And how many bets within your round and the values of your progression?
I am intrigued.