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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2016, 06:43:07 PM »
Are you trying to say that after 455 spins if we don't have a profit that it is a loss?  That would certainly be a vastly more acceptable figure that can be worked with.
I agree. I'm a little more precise. In the latter example, the number 31 to reduce our balance sheet in 1372 units and the number of 29 to the minus 891. So I meant 5.5% of numbers that will not go into a plus for the 455 back, but will not go into minus 1385. And these numbers , are completely gone into negative in 1385 , it is really very little.
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2016, 06:47:15 PM »
Well Ok.  The post that you are using as a guide was designed ONLY to show what could happen in a single series of misses in a row without hitting our number.  To use that table, you have to start over every time you get a hit from 1 spin again.

I do think this system is vulnerable to successive draw-downs without proper recovery and needs to be improved in those cases where "draw down stagnation" is taking place.
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2016, 07:14:59 PM »
I consider a progression without betting selection criteria to be pointless.
A single number could be absent for 360 spins or even longer, therefore if the progression cannot overcome such rare but realistic occurrences don't bother at all.

Besides the whole matter is very subjective because the results one may experience could have a vast difference from those someone else had by using another number (even in the same place and time)

So what's the point to discuss about progressions when you don't know where to bet!?
Let me put it this way, if your number decided to sleep for 400 spins, then by gradually increasing your bets you would only achieve greater loss.

I consider the best strategies those which can be adapted and adjusted to any situation.
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2016, 07:32:06 PM »
as with a lot of posts the realization of how pointless it is has finally kicked in
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2016, 07:46:13 PM »
Well I am currently playing a single number system (not this one because of the aforementioned draw-down stagnation) and it has no problems handling a 455 spin draw-down because of the characteristics of the betting schedule (incline, width, height). 

The secret is that it only appears pointless but in reality its the most efficient betting system possible simply because the lowest possible cost allows for the greatest versatility in the bet amounts and highest possible payout creates the most profit in the quickest amount of time; all systems must suffer from variance but betting 1 number with the highest payout in the game allows for the strongest recovery system possible to deal with that variance.

For quite awhile I had a similar understanding that betting a single number is a boring form of suicide.
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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2016, 08:02:21 PM »
Well I am currently playing a single number system (not this one because of the aforementioned draw-down stagnation) and it has no problems handling a 455 spin draw-down because of the characteristics of the betting schedule (height, width, incline). 

The secret is that it only appears pointless but in reality its the most efficient betting system possible simply because the low cost allows for the greatest versatility in the bet amounts and high payout creates the most profit in the quickest amount of time; all systems must suffer from variance but betting 1 number with the highest payout in the game allows for the strongest recovery system possible to deal with that variance.

For quite awhile I had a similar understanding that betting a single number is a boring form of suicide.

I think almost nobody finds attractive the idea to sit down for 455 spins till a single number appears, there are a few more practical and effective methods which are getting advantage of regular events rather than playing against the flow and freak events.
This is what I call flexibility.
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2016, 08:25:22 PM »
That's fine.  I already know based on my own opinion after starting to investigate roulette that many will find it distasteful but a 455 spin event is a once in a lifetime thing being a 1 out of 16M chance. 

Secondly, despite popular opinion which I also held previously, this system does go with the flow with 92% of spins landing within 92 spins and with the vast majority of them landing within 64 spins (both generate instant profit).

Regarding flexibility, I choose to exercise my flexibility in the progression structure and there are times where I choose to go deeper or higher even though the sequence does not force me to do so.
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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2016, 08:48:11 PM »
That's fine.  I already know based on my own opinion after starting to investigate roulette that many will find it distasteful but a 455 spin event is a once in a lifetime thing being a 1 out of 16M chance. 

Secondly, despite popular opinion which I also held previously, this system does go with the flow with 92% of spins landing within 92 spins and with the vast majority of them landing within 64 spins (both generate instant profit).

Regarding flexibility, I choose to exercise my flexibility in the progression structure and there are times where I choose to go deeper or higher even though the sequence does not force me to do so.

All of the systems you are presenting here have 1 common element and this is PROGRESSIONS and EXTREME NUMBERS!
You always favor a rigged selection and you raise bets again and again till the rigged selections eventually come, THIS IS HOW FORTUNES HAVE BEEN LOST, casinos should be very greatfull about you!

How many times do I have to say that the key to victory isn't about progressions and money management?!

When are you going to realize that money are not tokens in your computer?!

When are you going to realize that your win rates of 98% or 99% or even 99.9999%  WILL BE DEPLETED  BY THE 2% OR 1% OR 0.1% ?!

When are you going to realize that your gambling mentality is unrealistic?! 

 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2016, 09:07:01 PM »
Thanks for your advice.  I like the system I am using now.  You think in terms of 37 spins and I think in terms of 92 spins :shrug:

We should take the Dobble Challenge and duke it out with real virtual spins for a gaming contest! : D

I remember someone saying it was stupid because real money isn't involved but it sure would solve these "arguments" we sometimes have. : D

My Bullseye would run your FHG system into the ground. : P



In the funmode I have developed a program for roulette tournements. It is likely cashpoker.

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2016, 02:33:39 AM »
Thanks for your advice.  I like the system I am using now.  You think in terms of 37 spins and I think in terms of 92 spins :shrug:

We should take the Dobble Challenge and duke it out with real virtual spins for a gaming contest! : D

I remember someone saying it was stupid because real money isn't involved but it sure would solve these "arguments" we sometimes have. : D

My Bullseye would run your FHG system into the ground. : P



In the funmode I have developed a program for roulette tournements. It is likely cashpoker.



Stagnation is what weakens the player, starvation is what destroys him, they are growing proportionally.

Another similar example of harmonious growth is syphilisation and civilisation, the first weakens human while the later destroys him...
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2016, 05:48:23 PM »
Thanks for your advice.  I like the system I am using now.  You think in terms of 37 spins and I think in terms of 92 spins :shrug:

We should take the Dobble Challenge and duke it out with real virtual spins for a gaming contest! : D

I remember someone saying it was stupid because real money isn't involved but it sure would solve these "arguments" we sometimes have. : D

My Bullseye would run your FHG system into the ground. : P



In the funmode I have developed a program for roulette tournements. It is likely cashpoker.



So you consider "bullseye" your best system so far??
If yes, why??
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2016, 05:51:50 PM »
As far as systems which I had a hand in creating, yes its my best system so far.

I combines the best of everything (win rate, risk-profit ratio, reliability) and it outperforms every system in its class.
 

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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2016, 10:22:37 PM »
UPDATE


Very interesting.  Flowing around with this one some more.  With my experiences with the Bullseye, I am far more skilled in "surfing about" to break bad streaks and restore profit.  What this bet selection/method lacks in excitement and variety, it makes up for in flexibility.

I just bet my first number and it missed over 105 times in a row.  So here I noted that we are looking at a number that is not "normal" and I am simply seeking to find a time to change numbers since the odds are in my favor for the performance to improve (76% of nailing an immediate profit with each number tried). 

Finally after going down 500 units, this number woke up and I received 2 hits in a row and was down about 200 units.  So I decided to act and switched to another number and it missed over 70 times bringing my debt back down to 500 units again before it woke up and hitting twice within 35 spins.  I again acted to switch numbers and received 3 in a row (different numbers each time) that generated a profit and ultimately a new all time high.

The good thing is that you can keep the chip levels the same even if you switch the numbers you are betting.  I keep the spin counter the same too so if I get a second hit in a row on the 15th spin, I switch numbers and continue with the 16th spin and at the end of those spins I will reduce the chips by 1/2, rounding up while on the new number (even though it hasn't hit yet). 

As a general rule, if a number is underperforming I am looking for 2 hits from it within 35 spins (the wake up spin and the statistically expected "snap back" hit) before I change numbers.  Granted the instinct here is to stay on this number because it is underperforming and grind it until it pays but I've been there and done that and would prefer to gain the minimum benefit and move on just in case that floor is made out of sand... O_o



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One way of looking at it is that 76%>66% and so its better to switch numbers in case of doubt than to try and grind a single number because of "performance expectation".

Its quite an adventure and gives me that "I'm a skillful gambler" feel to my efforts. :D

Heck it sure beats bashing my head into the felt for over 2000 spins on a single number and losing all my bankroll! >.<





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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2016, 11:08:10 AM »
Inspired of this discussions I thought I should try a single number. Yes the session can be long, but not this.
 
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Re: Single Number Progression By Turbo Genius
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2016, 11:24:07 AM »
Made 50 more spins and got 4 hits. Is there a way to know which number is coming often or which are rare in hitting?  Some call it a bet selection, but are there a way to know? 

We know so much, we will near about never see a number absent for more than 1000 spins. Even 600 is many.
Change number after a hit will not comform to the talk of hot numbers.
 
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