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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2017, 12:47:09 PM »

Mr P
You may think we don't need a system to play  and win at roulette -I do.

 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2017, 01:41:02 PM »
 Even l do, you know. System just has to be apropriate to the wheel you facing. It should reflect reality.
   To determine wich system to use, need to study wheel. Or in other words , you are obligated to use apropriete system for a wheel you facing, as a player.
   Things on wheel do change, you system should account for it. You really need to be a player, not gambler to pull it of. That's why l say that HG is a player himself. Hope it clarify your doubts.
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2017, 01:52:08 PM »
Hey mr Perfect,
If you connect dots with a marker at the Ukrainian cities me and Jake have visited on a map you'd clearly see the formation of a pattern...!
This pattern is like a cycle if deciphered properly, which means that it never ends, but only passes through different phases, expands and then shrinks, to start all over again.
Does this ring a bell...??
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2017, 01:54:41 PM »
 I gess ,some people do not understand responsibility that comes with this game.
   It's not a system who win or loose, it's the one who use the system that bank money. System can be good or bad, but in case of player... it's a winner or looser!!! Have you guys ever considered good player with a loosing system? Does it even exist such a thing?
   Players wanna be blame anything bit not themselves.  It can be variance, wrong moneymanagement, or anything else...  result is wird.  Systems change, players wanna be do not wise up!!!
   Damn.. really? This is exactly why there are so few players out there- no one wanna accept responsibility for their errors, everyone blame systems, not system designer. 
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2017, 01:58:50 PM »
Blue Angel, l like you guys travel. I do not look patterns without a need ... in everything. Hope you and other took pictures. Sites are nice, who knows for how long they continue there...
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2017, 02:06:02 PM »
There are not good or bad systems but only good and bad times to apply a system.
Everyone could win and lose with everything, the only thing which makes the whole difference is the timing effect.
Prequalify your game and apply the proper betting rules to the proper game conditions.
Timing is everything!
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2017, 05:18:40 PM »

While I agree that ANY system can win  I think there are bad systems. Variance dictates whether or not we win - or lose  - so you are right there BA .
And Mr. P .  I don't blame "The System" when I lose so you are wrong there . I accept that I can lose at some point so limit those losses.
By the Way. How is your Intuition doing these days ? Are you winning by the use of it or by the  use of your AP calculations ? And which Method is the most profitable  ?
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2017, 05:32:56 PM »
The level of effectiveness is not the same for every system, but all of them have harsh and favorable times.
You say intuition but I say clairvoyance, why to reject something beyond your grasp? Just because it's inconvenient for your circumstances?
Whether you call it AP, physics, statistics or mathematics they all have something in common, they are using data from past spins.
1 spin before is already past, could you imagine yourself going forward by looking backwards? Awkward, isn't it?

Paradoxically the most effective is the most rejected, but perhaps for a reason...
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2017, 07:15:45 PM »
 Sceps, l listen both my mind and intuition. Wich one of your legs do you prefer to walk? Wich one is more effective on your opinion?
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2017, 07:47:04 PM »

The only sound way to turn a football club into a dozen is to watch the movement of the ball, the ball tiers to move around and eventually comes to rest.
When ball stops movement on the wheel and that's a fact, the same thing happens on the table's layout, eventually stops jumping from one spot to another along the felt and the same section repeats from one spin to the next.
Larger sections which carrying more numbers are ''heavier'' thus stop moving more frequently than the ''lighter'' ones which carry less numbers.

Distribution of results=distribution of balls
Movement of ball along the wheel=movement of sections along the felt

@ mr Perfect,

Both of your legs are pegged and tied when comes to roulette, you may choose only which way you want to lose.
Rather than wasting time on tedious calculations try a lucky charm, your ''lucky'' numbers, try opening your 3rd eye...they could win for no reason and are as good as random.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2017, 07:56:41 PM by kav »
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2017, 08:47:37 PM »
Blue, l do not wanna be mean.. 
  As l remember, l could find errors in your understanding very qweak after just some minutes on the Skype.  It's regarding vb.. 
   Practice show, people who can be mistaken in one thing , can be mistaken on others as well.
   Or you think you know exactly how l play or what l use?
 
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2017, 09:04:37 PM »
@ Kav,
Why have you pegged my previous post?
Is it wrong to call the liar a liar?!

@ mr Perfect,
You may think what you want, this doesn't affect my gaming reality, not even a tiny bit.
You, the so called advantage players, might throw too many junk at the wall in the hope for something to stick on it...but rather than looking at the mirror and admire yourselves why don't you ask someone else to inform you what he/she really thinks about what you are doing?
It's one thing doing infallible fallacies and completely another to expect others to clap their hands, if you get my drift.
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2017, 10:00:57 PM »
Blue, l would be happy if someone told me " look here or there you do something wrong..  you should do like that instead"...
   Up till now there were 3 people who managed to pull it off. It's Real, Bebedictus and Jafco.
   I really apreciate time and effort they spent to help me. Their words and teachings really made a difference in my game.
   If you would show at least some understanding of something l do not know about this game, you would have all my undevided attention.  But up till now all l got from you was " l know how to do it , but it's a squirrel  secret".   Considering mentioned above, you can keep your opinion to yourself.
   Till the moment you show at least something worth my attention, lm not interested.
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2017, 11:40:33 PM »
BA,
It is wrong to attack other members. You should know by now.
 

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Re: Long term fallacies
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2017, 04:24:20 AM »

I am with Blue Angel  on this one Mr.P. You claim that no one other than an AP has posted anything interesting on this forum.  I think they have, It is just that you AP are not the least bit interested in anything other than AP.
As for Real, Bebedictus  and jafco winning . How do you know this for sure ? Because they  told you so ? Or did you  actually see them winning ?
This may interest you Mr. P. but , then again, maybe not.
As a member of Grosvenor Casinos I  was offered a free £20 if I joined their online casino. I  signed up intending to play my 10 unit   Dozen Parlayed method as 8 x £1  and then , if needed £2 on the 9th spin.  Hit and Run.
I won a few tables and got another £ 20 added though I am not  sure why
.I got to  £114 and decided to withdraw £50.As I had not used any of my own money I needed to open  an account so deposited £20 and withdrew £70. This was in my Paypal account  within hours though they said it may take 3 to 7 days.

They withdrew the 2 x £20 freebies because I had withdrawn some winnigs. I won some more and withdrew 2 x£ 50. I lost the rest but I have stopped betting there meantime and have £150 of their money . Without risking any of my own  !
We  punters choose WHEN to bet  -and when not to bet . Not the casinos !