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Mixing and Matching wheel parts
« on: April 06, 2017, 03:02:20 AM »
Hello this is my very first post, so please tell me if I'm doing this wrong. I was wondering if its possible to mix and match different manufacturers wheel parts. For example, I am well aware of Cammegh wheels, and that they sometimes have Random Rotor Speed, or RRS. Usually roulette wheels have their turrets showing the manufacturers name to identify the type of wheel. In my OPINION, hiding the Cammegh name, by replacing it with a more, from what I understand as, reputable so-to-say, roulette turret - bearing the TCS John Huxley name would be something that is not necessarily illegal and would benefit the casinos to have and hide.


 
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2017, 09:58:07 AM »
I am sure our AP Mod will be along shortly to talk about this.  We also have quite a few AP players that post from time to time.  Welcome to the forum!
 
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 10:28:59 AM »
@Heatmap.  Everything is possible.  I have seen such wheels before myself.
    Turret is just ornament, it's there for a beauty. It can be replaced any way they want. If it doesn't fit normally, it can be recut to fit. Not a problem at all.
    Changing rotor ( disk with numbers) can be more problematic,  these rotate on bearings and normally differ in fitting , depending on central shaft thickness.
    It's always a good idea to check rotor deceleration,  even if rrs is not present ( better be sure then sorry). It will help you to create proper playing model as well.
 
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 10:56:53 AM »
I figured it was completely possible, especially with the turret! Now I just need to find someone, or a picture or video of someone applying this. I don't think I will unfortunately.
 
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 11:07:33 AM »
Depending on what you want exactly, l probably could help you. ...
   Could you be especific on what you want to find picture or video? How to do it or how to account for it?
 

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 11:23:12 AM »
It's pretty much how I explained it. I feel as if my local casino might be using TCS John Huxley branded stuff, mostly the turrets, as well as the history display. As in I think they have Cammegh Wheels, but are replacing their turrets with TCS John Huxley turrets.

There is one doubt I have about my own theory, and that is the presence of 3, in bowl sensors, which from what I understand are a signature of an actual TCS wheel.

Im looking for pictures of someone physically attaching a TCS John Huxley turret to a Cammegh wheel and if its possible.
 

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 12:00:19 PM »
Branded " royal casino" has these, as well as " immercive roulette". These are online. Can be reached thru betvictor or unibet websites.  You can take all pictures you want. Use screenshot. 
   In general all wheels online that offer bet after spin initiated do have rrs fitted.
  You can test for rrs while predicting , or just take full rotor rotations with stop watch and put them in excel ( timings)... so you can compare by yourself... 
   Remember, better sure then sorry.
 
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2017, 12:16:34 PM »
Awesome Ill start looking there this is what I need to continue my research!

Edit - I also think im going to look more into specifications and differences between Cammegh and TCS John Huxley. I am assuming they wont be able to replace their rotors with each others like you said, but im still going to check dimensions just in case.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 01:22:56 PM »
Use patent search on Google,  usually it's helpful. ....
   Do not get paranoid.  Sometimes it's more easy to check with stopwatch.
 
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2017, 01:53:48 PM »
Im actualy starting a thread very soon specifically about patents. I just started a draft. But I dont want to post without being certain about what I think is possible based on what I find. From what I have seen about TCS John Huxley, they are the least rigged. Cammegh is most rigged.
 

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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2017, 02:02:57 PM »
"rigged"??  :o
 

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2017, 02:16:59 PM »
sorry i meant "fair"
 

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2017, 02:43:10 PM »
 Hope it gonna be a good read. Fingers crossed, looking forward to it.
 

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2017, 02:46:29 PM »
unfair!?  :o
 

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2017, 04:51:55 PM »
Some of the patents I've read describe being able to correct a wheels bias as making it more fair for the players haha