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Geoffrey

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Trading on the financial Market?
« on: February 14, 2017, 03:59:13 PM »
Trading is not directly related to gambling , casino or roulette. But sure has more a lot of similarities.

I wonder if there are people here who are into trading?


 

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Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 09:44:50 PM »
 I'm looking into binary options now... sims interesting. Has many negative aspects, like high house edge and lots of scams ... but on something like official and regulated money exchange could potentialy work out nicely. Needs studies Dow. .. 18- 25 % house edge is not easy to overcome.
 
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 09:52:50 PM »
Reyth has posted some amazing links!
See also here, for a more "philosophical" comparison:
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2017, 02:02:10 AM »
I tought that this topic would have more interest because of the similarities between financial market and gambling (roulette, Bj, etc)

So glad to see some responses.

two quick answers.

Kav: Yes indeed, the links are a very intersting read. haven't had the time, to really get deeper into it. but i will. maybe in this topic.
Furhtermore i looked into the 2 articles you refer to a while back (probably beginning of previous year) with the extra year of expierence, i have to admit, i still stand behind different things explaned in those articles. On the otherhand, on other aspects i have to disagree a little.

Mr Perfect: I dont know if you are expierenced yet, or if you're just getting interessted and still are finding your way getting true things the financial market has to offer??

I personally wouldn't feel good if i didn't warn you to stay away from binary options and forex. You can win big time, its true, but its to damn risky. Too much hit or mis kinda stuff. I wouldnt want anyone here to burn himself.

Us market is extremely volatile, and therefor very hard also. On the other hand if you master it, its were you can get the most money out consistently. I'm not on US market for the moment. It's something i will work on in 2018. when i can fix the volatility problem, my overal performance will grow and speed up dramatically. so still lots to be done.

The good news is , can you get an edge over the financial market?? The answer is YES and you dont need to do a sort of 'AP' approach like in roulette to achieve it.

 
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2017, 06:08:56 AM »
Thank's for warning Geoffrey. I have 0 expirience with the market... l red some articles and books and have some analytical skills under my belt.
  Still searching reliable brokers on binary thing.
I see problems with forex or stock markets, if market crashes, player may loose a lot ... on binary options loss is limited to current bet amount.
   Why do you think no need to be AP to play on market? It's a same as roulette wheel. Sometimes very expected behaviour, sometimes unpredictable... depending on the time of the day, news, general economical situation, activity of hedge funds, major players actions... ets. It's full of variables, same as roulette.
 

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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2017, 02:10:22 PM »
Hi Geoffrey

I find this an interesting topic as I have tried to find correlations with trading and gambling.

Not being a trader myself I am interested in knowing how you get an edge without any AP equivalent.

Many thanks

Mike
 
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2017, 02:44:08 PM »
  Still searching reliable brokers on binary thing.

Binary options have a bad reputation and are considered as little more than gambling in the trading world.

Ever considered sports betting? I reckon you'd be pretty good at it.  ;)

And why the change of direction? running out of wheels?  ;D
 

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2017, 04:13:02 PM »
  Still searching reliable brokers on binary thing.

Binary options have a bad reputation and are considered as little more than gambling in the trading world.

Ever considered sports betting? I reckon you'd be pretty good at it.  ;)

And why the change of direction? running out of wheels?  ;D
Wheels require team or lots of free time. I have none of these. No one wanna work, everyone just tolks around. On markets l can be " one man army" on my own.
 Wheels are out there, l can cover 3 at the time, can not follow more then that while physically being there...  when it's good , l can use one only... markets permit me to stay home or anywhere l want, l see it as a benefit.
    Take yourself as an examile,  you didn't bother to learn numbers order up till now. And everyone is like that. All wanna money, no one wanna work for it.....
  Don't get me wrong...  it's not " direction change", it's expansion. 
 Game is all the same after all, just change in required variables.
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2017, 05:12:38 PM »
    Take yourself as an examile,  you didn't bother to learn numbers order up till now. And everyone is like that. All wanna money, no one wanna work for it.....
 

It would be a pointless exercise because I don't intend to go to B & M casinos, and if playing online I can use software. It's not that I don't want to work...
 
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2017, 05:46:59 PM »
Wheels require team or lots of free time. I have none of these.
I can explain abit . You know diference between say professional basket player and amateur, who play in the yard ?
Diference usually is very big. That yard player of course sometimes can be also as good as professional , but chance for that is one from thousands.

The same is with game - you cant do good if you need free time for that and no matter if that is roulette or if that is financial trading.... think about that ...
 
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2017, 06:34:12 PM »
My 2 cents on this is what I have always believed...roulette is a much better chance at making money than the options market. I have traded extensively and the biggest benefit is that your trades ( play ), in roulette, have no expiration date,like the options market does. Look at any simple high probability play on the ec's for example. For the sake of argument....12 reds in a row. You can bet the opposite or the continuation or both sides ( straddle ), and make money even if you lose that trade, because your option on the condition you are playing NEVER EXPIRES! With proper bet and bank management, you can revisit that condition at a latter date and always make money. With the stock market, that trade ends out of the money every third Thursday of the month....
 
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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2017, 07:17:32 PM »

 My faorite is EC ...

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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2017, 07:20:59 PM »
Ya, I have found options to be very scary instruments for direct investment.  I have used them succesfully in the commodities market as a bet hedge and in that instance it became profitable so that I broke even.

Option prices move far too fast for my liking.
 

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Re: Trading on the financial Market?
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2017, 09:46:19 PM »
Trading is not directly related to gambling , casino or roulette. But sure has more a lot of similarities.

I wonder if there are people here who are into trading?
" Facilitators" make money providing the facilities.
Casinos are facilitators  and find it profitable.
Might it be profitable to buy shares in casinos and companies providing the facility of betting the Stock Market / Financial Markets ?
 
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