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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #600 on: January 08, 2018, 09:00:37 AM »
Good morning, for All of u Who asked for my devisor, here it is. Have a great day friend.

1. bet 1 unit
2. bet 1 unit 3. bet 2 unitsIf the first bet wins, profit: 2 units.If the second bet wins, profit: 1 unit.If the third bet wins, profit: 2 units.In each of these cases the progression begins new with the sequence: 1 - 1 - 2! If the first 3 bets are lost, the next bet is determined as follows:with a negative balance between 4 to 9 units the balance is divided by 2,with a negative balance between 10 to 21 units the balance is divided by 3,with a negative balance between 22 to 100 units the balance is divided by 4,With a negative balance over 100 units the balance is divided by 5.If the result of the division is not a whole number, then this number is always rounded up. The progression starts always with a bet size of 1 unit!·  Bet No. 1: 1 unit, in case of a win next bet 1 unit, in case of a loss:·  Bet No. 2: 1 unit, in case of a win next bet 1 unit, in case of a loss:·  Bet No. 3: 2 units, in case of a win next bet 1 unit, in case of a loss: 4 : 2 = 2·  Bet No. 4: 2 units, in case of a win next bet 1 unit, in case of a loss 6 : 2 = 3·  Bet No. 5: 3 units, in case of a win next bet 1 unit, in case of a loss 9 : 2 = 4.5 =5·  Bet No. 6: 5 units, in case of a win next bet 1 unit, in case of a loss 14 : 3 = 4.66 = 5·  Bet No. 7: 5 units, in case of a win next bet 4 : 2 = 2 units, in case of a loss 19 : 3 = 6.33 = 7Bet No. 8: and so fourth...Now i've come up when a safe 20 step progression.Bet 1   1Bet 2   1Bet 3   2Bet 4   2Bet 5   3     6   5      7   5      8   7  9   7     10  9     11  11     12  14     13  17     14  21     15  21     16  25     17  30     18  36     19  43     20  50     Sum 310 unitsWithout going into too much detail at this stage, say if you won on Bet 10, and you will have -15 units. You will experience a net loss but then you assign that loss to the next equivalent bet that measures that sum, in this case Bet 6 and play on.In the area in which I specialise there is an 83% chance of a successful strike in the first 4 attempts of the bet.So there is an improving chance of a closure of the net loss quite quickly as time goes on.As always with this sort of approach you look to nullify the debt if possible within 2-3 attempts. Not always possible but this progression is cleverly designed to assist in that cause.
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #601 on: January 08, 2018, 09:20:00 AM »


Thank you jekhb76 looks great and i understand you have succés playing this method.
I just want to mention one alternativ Holloways Progression - it is develop for EC but works with single dozen system with high strike ratio.

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #602 on: January 08, 2018, 09:40:11 AM »
Sputnik, will you give a explanation using the Holloways progression for single dozens.
Anything that may add value to this great system is a bonus.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #603 on: January 08, 2018, 10:02:20 AM »

I try to post and write the information but something is wrong with forum functions making the output erratic.
So i made a link to the topic with Holloway Progression http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=1189.0
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #604 on: January 08, 2018, 10:41:18 AM »
Hi guys, if i were you i would stay away from the Holloway progression and stick to the original progression 1-1-2 2-2-4 etc provider by Palestis and my devisor. Just my two cents. But each for their own i guess. Have a great day.
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #605 on: January 08, 2018, 10:57:13 AM »
Thanks Jek

Do you plat exactly to the rules on the first post page one of this tread by Palestis?

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #606 on: January 08, 2018, 03:01:52 PM »


@
jekhb76 you wrote:
Hi guys, if i were you i would stay away from the Holloway progression and stick to the original.
Can you explain what is wrong with Holloway Progression and why you don't recommend it?
I understand you statement to stay away from it - but i can not see any logical reason or that you explain why!
I have not test it much - but run 80 trails with a common single dozen method and Holloway Progression looks working great ...

 

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #607 on: January 08, 2018, 08:08:40 PM »
I think I need to read how the divisor works a few times as I don't quite get it at the moment. So if after the first trigger, we bet 1 unit, 1 unit and 2 units but we lose on all 3 spins, after the next trigger we should bet 2 units, then 3 units and then 5 units? Is that right?

I have to say going back to the original 1-1-2, 2-2-4, 4-4-8 progression, I found this really frustrating when playing online - as I often didn't get a hit until the 5th-7th spin I was just recouping my losses but not profiting. It took me ages to build up just 20 units and at times felt like I was just going downhill very slowly. I would prefer to use a 12 step progression (100 units) but obviously there's more risk. If this divisor allows for 20 steps though and always into profit (not sure if that is the case?) it would be great as no way this system loses 20 times in a row.
 

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #608 on: January 08, 2018, 08:31:16 PM »
Hi Sam41, It is rare that the system will run losses like you describe. However, playing online is a red flag to me. Reyth is clued up with online play so I'd suggest asking him for advice about what sites to play on. I only play at live B/M tables and the system has showed a profit every time I've played it.

Because back to back losses are not that common with the system I sometime brave the play by simply going one up on a loss and two down on a win. If the minimum for outside bets is too high then play the two double streets of the target dozen using smaller units for inside bets. I reset to one unit when on a new high.
Hope this helps.
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #609 on: January 08, 2018, 08:57:30 PM »
Thanks Micky. I did find the same thing,  when I went to B&M I was winning every time within 4 spins, once I went to 5 but that was it. My problem there is how slow they are, it can take 2-3 minutes for each spin and its just painful waiting! But perhaps these online studios are a bit dodgy - I don't think they'd be worrying about me with my small bets, but perhaps they are doing something to screw high roller players over and therefore the results that come are not from genuine spins. But unless they are using magnets I don't see how they can do this?

Maybe the answer is to just bet higher sums at the B&M casino and hope you don't get a freak bad spell?
 

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #610 on: January 08, 2018, 10:32:02 PM »
This is one of my favorite systems to play as the triggers come quick and the wins come just as quick. Build your bankroll and increase your unit value one step at a time. You will be pleasantly surprised at how fast you can grow a bankroll.
 

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #611 on: January 09, 2018, 10:52:31 AM »
Jek, do you use the divisor or your 20 step progression?
 

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #612 on: January 09, 2018, 12:27:06 PM »
Hello Jekh,

i’m starting to do simulations around this interresting system. The only problem it is very slow if we use the one trigger only version so i suppose you use the 3 triggers original version to speed up the game ?

jerome
 
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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #613 on: January 13, 2018, 12:48:38 AM »
I've re read and now understand the divisor. It looks good, but I know I prefer to be in profit after just one winning spin with progressions like this, just in case you have a bad run, then win but are still down overall,  then get another bad run. Your bankroll cannot sustain the progression now. However from what everyone has said that seems highly unlikely playing this trigger pattern. I will need to choose between playing this or playing my 12 step progression (100 units needed). Would this trigger ever fail 4 times (12 spins) in a row at b&m casino?

On another note, has anyone noticed a difference in this trigger for dozens or columns? As in, does one perform especially better than the other?  I'd have thought maybe dozens would perform better as they are distributed around the wheel a bit better?

 

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Re: NEW SYSTEM: SINGLE DOZEN
« Reply #614 on: January 13, 2018, 01:23:23 AM »
About the betting plan, see this very illuminating post by Terminator:
http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=1376.msg21400#msg21400

Btw, where is Term?
 
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