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This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« on: May 20, 2017, 04:16:41 PM »
Remember that I told you I found something interesting by luck?

The last month I play poker online. I loose most of the time (bad beats galore, but that's another story). When I lose at poker I go to the roulette tables and recoup my losses to play again.

This is how I do it. There are various live roulette tables available. From the live roulette lobby one can see the last 10 numbers of each roulette. I look for roulette wheels where the sector 28-16 (12 numbers) is missing completely or has only appeared once for the last 10 spins. Then I bet this sector with a (very!) mild progression. When in profit I stop. Completely hit and run.

Most of the time it's an easy little profit. I did have a couple nightmarish sessions where the ball was consistently kicked out of the huge 12 numbers sector. Overall this approach hasn't performed too bad. Like I said I use it to recoup my poker losses. I guess it's time to stop poker and focus exclusively on roulette.

I don't advise anyone to do it. I just share what I did. Don't try this at home :-)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2017, 04:22:03 PM by kav »


 
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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 05:52:25 PM »

WELCOME  to the Hit and Run Club ,Kav  !
I play poker online but only  with play money .  I survive  !  When I think I have acquired enough experience I intend having a go at live Holdem poker in a B&M casino with a bank of  £100 . Perhaps in a few weeks time .
Variety is the spice of life  !
 
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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 09:18:47 AM »
poker has a larger risk than Roulette. Sometimes more than 10%. You can only be successful when you are the shark and the other participants are the fishes.
 
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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2017, 02:06:57 PM »

True Dobbelsteen True  !
But I am a cautious gambler and have been playing for a few months now  online and even I can see that many players trust more to Luck than Judgement. I paid £32 for 30 MILLION play-chips and have a bit more than that now so I  am a Survivor in Play mode.
.I often watch Poker being played  with real money  in a B&M casino and watch for the Flop and try and guess what cards players  may have in their hand. Doing this has given me some confidence that I could survive betting with real money. I am not talking about professionals here Dobbel, but amateurs.
I am intent on surviving and don't plan to  WIN  A  MILLION  !
 

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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2017, 07:32:03 PM »
Well . I had my first go at Cash Poker  in a B&M casino.
Texas Hold’em No Limit.  £1 Small Blinds £2 Big Blinds .
My bank was £100 which I had won at online roulette so no sweat if lost .
The only available table had 4 punters so I joined them. We were  soon joined by a guy who produced about £ 400 worth of chips  and proceeded to Bully the table and soon 2 were gone. Then a third which left only 3 of us with me as the fish .The other guy was  an experienced poker player and took Big Stack on.
Bets were too big   for my liking and was down to £40 before winning two Hands which brought me back to £98 . Tried to reach £100 but lost 1 Small Blind and 1 Big Blind  and decided to leave the table with a loss of £ 5. I think I got off lightly !
I intend giving it another go  -soon  !   
 
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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2017, 04:46:32 PM »
I look for roulette wheels where the sector 28-16 (12 numbers) is missing completely or has only appeared once for the last 10 spins. Then I bet this sector with a (very!) mild progression. When in profit I stop.

Why this one sector? Can you also wait for any one of the table dozens to sleep for 10 spins?
 

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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2017, 06:49:23 PM »
Good question. The interest in this sector developed as I tried to develop further the 4 Pillars system and the idea of betting adjacent numbers in order to avoid "near misses". I can't say there is something special about this particular sector vs. any other continuous wheel sector of 12 numbers. So far I have only tested this sector. If we could be sure that any 12 number sector behaves the same that would reduce greatly the waiting time for the deviation to occur - we would have more triggers.

I can not identify them but I think that there may be differences in the behavior of a continuous 12 number wheel sector and a dozen or a column. Would it be the same to bet one half the wheel to betting Red? Questions...

Mathematically there is probably no difference. But, we should not dismiss easily physical (continuous section of the wheel) and metaphysical (numerology etc.) influences. There's more than meets the mathematician's eye. Think for example of placebo - it shouldn't have an effect but it does.
 
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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2017, 08:06:59 AM »
Mathematically there is probably no difference. But, we should not dismiss easily physical (continuous section of the wheel) and metaphysical (numerology etc.) influences. There's more than meets the mathematician's eye. Think for example of placebo - it shouldn't have an effect but it does.

   

Considering your scientific background, your comment is surprising, to say the least.

Because roulette is a conditioned event, measures according to empirical standards are possible and preferable before any form of pattern recognition, or prediction based on the previous. The hilarious paradox in this measurement though, is the ever present principle of Heisenberg that nullifies any given assumption on the long term.

Why may you ask? It primarily harks back to the self-evident fact, given the nature of this physical number generator,  that the very game is also abundant with strange attractors which is what exactly makes the above mentioned Heisenberg Uncertainty principle VERY PRESENT in any given observation, physical measurement, and post-analysis.

Consequently, any talk of "sleeping, or hot sectors" are merely the player's skewed observation based on mere supposition and not reality itself. The outcome of this, based on a clear understanding of the Strong and Weak Law of large numbers is, of course, a given. If it were not, all Casinos offering this game would soon go bust as such a weakness would quickly be taken advantage of by most professional gamblers.

The reality though is that any given roulette gambler, will eventually lose his capital on any applied hunch, idea, or a theory of any given and applied pattern, time scaled, or not, according to his own understanding ignoring the unbeatable prevalent principle taking place right before his eyes on and in that wheel of sheer uncertainty.
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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2017, 03:42:55 PM »
thomas,
If normal distribution, fat tails, variance and regression to the mean are in your opinion "the player's skewed observation based on mere supposition and not reality itself" I'm sorry but we disagree.
 

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Re: This is what I do (from Poker to Roulette)
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2017, 05:47:43 PM »
That much is certain.