Very interesting. I am a newbie to roulette and so this concept of "finals" just doesn't phase me.

Would I be correct in saying that its not the fact that we are betting finals but instead 2 normally appearing (at least) and recently appearing numbers and 2 numbers that haven't hit for at least 4 spins?

Wouldn't we get the same results if we played any 2 numbers from the last 4 spins and any 2 numbers that were not in the last 4 spins?

No it's not the same.

Playing that way we expect one of two things to happen.

A repetition of one of the 2 numbers in the last 4 spins, or the appearance of one of two numbers that haven't shown up. The question is how to pick those 2 numbers that haven't appeared.

We have to determine how to pick those 2 absent numbers. It could very well be that these 2 numbers are cold and therefore too risky to chase them.

As far as picking 2 recently appeared numbers, that's risky as well.

Some systems require to play the last 5 unique numbers.

And they have proven not to show up for 15+ spins. Picking only 2 numbers to repeat is vague, and the sky is the limit how long it would take to show up again.

The advantage of finals is that you only have to deal with 10 groups of numbers. 0-9.

And players that have dealt with system that involve finals can vouch that finals behave differently.

Besides in this particular system, the finals to be played change all the time. Therefore the target changes all the time.

Again it's a case of a constantly changing target, which forces the roulette to constantly do opposite zig zags in order to defeat you. And this is very rare.

But in any case, your suggestion can be tested to see if it works.

Pick any 4 numbers and play them for 8 spins. Then pick another 4 numbers and do the same.

The results should clearly indicate if its the same as the case of finals.

In my opinion the most robust systems are built around finals.

I have been dealing with them for over 15 years. ---------------------------------

And here is yet another finals system to think about and study.

We make a table with the finals from 1 to 0.

Looking at the numbers we dot the final of each number spun.

The finals of the numbers in the light yellow shaded area is transferred in the finals tally table.

Immediately we notice that the finals of 3,5,and 9, lag behind /or didn't appear at all.

They form their own special GROUP.

Do you notice that the finals of 3,5,9 come in groups when one of them appears?

Needless to say that by playing just those 11 numbers (3-13-23-33, 5-15-25-35, 9-19-29), the profit would've been incredible.

You just start the betting whenever one of those 3 finals (3,5,9) appears. You stop betting if they don't show up for3-4 spins. Then restart when one of them reappears.