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#### MrPerfect.

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2017, 12:32:44 PM »
Scepticus,  these things that you right have nothing to do with each other. If results are indid random,  there is no bet selection! Any selection in this case will result same -2.73% return on your bets on average. You would be much better shooting yourself in the leg then playing random roulette.
If you think lm wrong,  argument please.
P.S ...do not shoot yourself in the leg, it was just a way to say.

#### scepticus

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2017, 02:44:38 PM »

Mr Perfect
You clearly don't understand that all gambling involves a lack of information  therefore we can only make an educated guess as to future outcomes . An educated guess is what we select to bet and so is a Bet Selection.
It is you that has to prove that the winning results are not random. That you believe  so is not proof.
I do not believe that your version of AP - without the use of an electronic device - is  valid.

#### MrPerfect.

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2017, 04:14:25 PM »
Roulette doesn't care what you personally belive or not. If it's random,  there is no educated bet selection. All bets are as likely to hit as others. Or not hit, in your particular case.
I have never seen one random roulette, probably you could point out where you see such things.
I will make a topic about about randomness of roulette on vb section and post graphs of what l see on day by day basis.

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2017, 05:22:19 PM »

Dobblesteen, what would you like to demonstrate on your demo, wont mind participating.

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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2017, 06:01:41 PM »

I find it very discouraging how easily people like to desagree.

since I started writting back into this post I only get corrections on what statement I make.

what i mention BIAS, I hear they dont exist!  THE TERM BIAS ONLY MEANS THAT SOMETHING OR SOMEONE IS MOVING TOWARD A DIRECTION. HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO AGREE WITH THAT???

have we not all seen blacks on roulette coming out strong for many,many spins?  THAT IS A BIAS!
IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT???  AM I NUTS? (dont answer that,lol)

so yes repeats of series do take place for very long time, RIGHT?    BIAS TOWARDS SERIES!!!

so we can choose to agree and try to be productive, speak about what we notice in games,ect... be informative, or just be foolish and always look for the desagreement. AND GUARRANTY IF WE LOOK WE WILL ALWAYS FIND SOMETHING TO DESAGREE WITH.
lets hear about your games and what you have all learn in years of playing, lets be mature and not always contradict what is been said.
RANDOMNESS DOES NOT MEAN WE CAN NOT HAVE A IDEA OF WHAT CAN COME UP WITHIN THE NEXT 10 SPINS, IT JUST IS NEVER 100%, THAT IS ALL.
PATTERNS,STREAKS,SERIES, HAVE A DIFFERENT MOVEMENT WHEN YOU PLAY A AC,AS OPOSED TO A STREET. so randomness has its own personality, depending on what we are playing. bet selection has its place as well, and is very important in term of timing and winning. if I look at a block of 10 spins,outcome resuting from playing red at roulette, even know i could lose 10 bets in a row, I can easily calibrate a bet that would be a winning bet, or 2 of them. that simple. randomness just is different depending on what we are playing, by that i mean distribution,fluctuations, types of groups I will see,ect.....

#### scepticus

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2017, 06:38:18 PM »

Mr. Perfect
I think you need to tell us what you mean by Random.

#### scepticus

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2017, 06:54:22 PM »

Might I ask how old you are ?
Do you honestly  expect us  all  to  agree with you - without question ? .In this forum we often disagree  and nowadays less forcefully than before  !
In roulette " Bias" means that some particular section of the wheel is favoured . This mean that some number or group of numbers wins MUCH MORE OFTEN than other numbers. This  means that , if the Bettor sees that then he can make much profit. This  is highly unlikely in modern wheels though self-styled AP in this forum DISAGREE  !
No need to feel discouraged.  In this forum not only are we entitled to have an opinion but  are encouraged to express it.

#### MrPerfect.

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2017, 07:12:14 PM »
Scepticus,  random for me equates for unpredictable  ( without any reasonably traceable pattern).

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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2017, 02:53:12 AM »

That is exactly what I am talking about Scepticus. just read your post please. you just get personal by telling me i am as a 6 year old. just my point. the way we communicate is everything if we want to learn from one another. of course we can disagree. but can we ever agree as well about anything ?   when I mention bias did i said "sections of the wheel? no . how hard can it be to think that maybe after I explained what I mean that maybe I was not talking about a sector?  I am 57 years old by the way. did I call you stupid, childish ? NO !!! why do you even go there my man ? i have been nothing but respectfull to all of you. this is going nowhere. instead of trying to anderstand what people are saying, we play with words so we can disagree. great wisdom!!!
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#### scepticus

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2017, 04:00:04 AM »
When I asked your  age it was not my intention to demean you.
I don’t think that you have a good grasp of Bias so I thought that you might be a young man still learning. That was all .
You did ask for comments  in your first post and I responded but if you think I am demeaning you  by pointing out that your idea of bias is wrong then I’ll butt out and leave you to it

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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2017, 04:10:44 AM »

Scepticus,  random for me equates for unpredictable  ( without any reasonably traceable pattern).

So if it is " without any reasonably traceable pattern " how can we bet without using a method ?
You are clearly wrong to say that all " bets " are as likely to hit as others .They are not . Perhaps you are thinking about " numbers " ?

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2017, 11:29:48 AM »
Scepticus,  yes, numbers. Is there anything else to bet there?

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2017, 02:58:52 PM »

"The Bet  Selection " is our "Prediction "(  Guess)  as to the outcome of  the spin /s and not the numbers themselves.   Just as AP need the table to place their "Bet" based on their prediction. we Method players use the table to place our bets depending on our predictions.
I use maths in roulette but the "Prediction" can be used in other situations where there are  Sets of Three and Sets of Two.

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2017, 03:38:17 PM »
If you let compute a random number row with a RNG  of about 10000 figures you can not proof the sequence is  random.A random computed  row of 300 dozens is not random.

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##### Re: truth is'randomness can reduce variances or fluctuations !
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2017, 04:50:03 PM »
Scepticus,  in roulette we bet numbers, there is nothing there to bet besides numbers.
Even if you bet combination of numbers, provided by casino for convenience  ( not yours convenience ) , be it red or dousen,  you still bet numbers.