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Crystal Ball
« on: February 22, 2017, 10:58:11 AM »

Its amazing how you can grow as gambler with better understanding.
I almost have a feeling about what is coming next playing the EC and most of times i am right.

There has always been a missing part of my understandig, but now i can see it clear with open eyes.
I use cycles with certain events and they come in sections of windows with turning points into a new property state, but most of times the past section has some events that was part of the past section into the future one wish make prediction much more easy as you have some kind of expectation.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 11:49:11 AM »


Yes!  I too have had my recent "crystal ball" moments!!  In fact it was pursuing this as a bet selection method that allowed me to see invisible patterns in roulette.  Still, even with these patterns, I cannot 100% predict the next spin and can lose several times in a row within the "window".
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 06:26:30 PM »
I'm playing only live roulette and so often i tell to myself, it will be number 4 next, and i cover everything around and i miss one by one neighbour number...But sometimes i catch even 3 times in the row exact number, but losing this chance to win just because....because i can't believe in what i feel or see in my mind....Strange feelings.
 
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 06:49:30 AM »

My predictions can use up as you go progressions, i have never seen a working method in a public forum using a positive progression.
If i am wrong feel free to correct me.

Just saying that some events are conditional probability and has to happen.
That give us limited chans to what is left to happen.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 08:49:26 AM »
Yes, very good!  I have tried to think of how I could use a positive progression but it hasn't seemed reasonable to me.

Now that I think about it, would it be a better way to save money & require less bankroll?

I was thinking, should I score my W/L registries somehow to find out if a positive progression would be better?  Like, could I score it, "win streaks (length)" vs. "loss streaks (length)" or something?  Or do I have to manually go through and score bet by bet for a new total?

Here is the L/W registry for my last 80 bets:

LWWLLWWWLLWWLLL
WWLWLWWWWWLLLL
WLWWLWWLWWWWWLWWLWLWLWLWWLLL
WWLLL
WLWLWLLWLLLLLLLL <=== This requires a larger bankroll with a negative progression
WW

Its 40 wins & 40 losses & I am showing a profit of 288 units but more importantly than the profit is the bankroll exposure; if I can require less bankroll I will actually make more money.
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 04:43:27 PM »
The danger of a positive progression is that your largest bet is the  one that loses .
 
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 04:52:36 PM »
The danger of a positive progression is that your largest bet is the  one that loses .
Good point. The counterargument is that when you lose this bet your overall balance is on a winning trend, so your bankroll can stand the loss.
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 08:24:38 PM »
The danger of a positive progression is that your largest bet is the  one that loses .
Good point. The counterargument is that when you lose this bet your overall balance is on a winning trend, so your bankroll can stand the loss.
Good point.  The condition being that you have properly set up your ranges (betting range & trigger range) so the statistics will so favor you with a profit.
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2017, 08:09:21 AM »
Reyth they make the wrong assumptions and point is not taken.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2017, 09:10:23 AM »
Very nice.  I must say I am quite not familiar with positive progression systems.

When you say a 4 strike allows us +12 profit and a loss of 12 times, obviously you u mean that you won all 4 bets and quit after the 4th bet.  You treat streaks like losses and flat bet unless you win.

-35 flat betting, lol ya that is quite horrendous.

I suppose that I should go back and score my entire 80 bet history and see what I would have accomplished.  This will help build my skill in positive progressions.
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2017, 02:21:04 PM »
for a positive progression system, you can also use a bet selection. Why does not do someone a simulation for an EC?  Words, words but never a clear example.
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2017, 02:29:24 PM »
Very nice.  I must say I am quite not familiar with positive progression systems.

When you say a 4 strike allows us +12 profit and a loss of 12 times, obviously you u mean that you won all 4 bets and quit after the 4th bet.  You treat streaks like losses and flat bet unless you win.

-35 flat betting, lol ya that is quite horrendous.

I suppose that I should go back and score my entire 80 bet history and see what I would have accomplished.  This will help build my skill in positive progressions.

Reyth i will share one last thing - after that i will shut up for my own best - so not all members start to rape the casinos around the world. Have you ever look at your testing reversal or back to back results.
For example lets say you test 300 spins sampels flat betting or using positive progression, then sooner or later you get a file that goes down at hell from the beginning of your 300 spins sample.

But read this over and over again, the other 95% sampels will have a win and reversal or back to back.
That means that your sampel will show plus results and minus results and then again plus result or break even results - at average flat betting certain length you will get two to three reversal or back to back results, so if you win +2 units flat betting or using positive progression and thinking to quit, then you know that you have 2 or 3 reversal in front of you, so you could aim for another +2 units or break even once more as you have 2 to 3 reversal or back to back as expectation.

So when you test positive progression with two, three or four steps - look at the reversal for each sampel and get the average peak, so if you don't reach you win goal with your first attempt, then you could push for one more, as you know your expectation of reversal or back to back.
It can look like this - plus 5 then later minus 4 then again plus 2 then later minus 1 and then again plus 0 before you get minus 20 and no more reversal or back to back.

Most sampels with testing has reversals and back to back results, that is better then negative recovery progressions that only make a deeper hole in your bankroll.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2017, 02:47:38 PM »
for a positive progression system, you can also use a bet selection. Why does not do someone a simulation for an EC?  Words, words but never a clear example.

I move from semi professional to full professional study and now i pay money to get into deeper understanding. X have a new forum at take 1000 EUR for membership and i will soon join.
I have the money but at the moment i join another forum who take only 50 EUR fee or 600 EUR for one year.

The knowledge and quality is from daily playing professionals who win and to read does topics are much different then reading topics at this forum, my opinion and i am talk about even money methods.
The quality and level is very high and i have been missing that part at this forum board - where i can post something significant and true amazing observations with examples and illustrations and no one reply or comment the significant discovery with words that would show me that they fully understand the importance of the particular observation. Also missing feed back knowledge.

I stop giving examples and illustrations as i now know what it take to win and i base all my conclusion on a 60.000 placed bets sampel with 1.4% house edge - so i know that flat betting is winning but less comparing with positive progression among others. Everything is now very clear for me and i know in what direction i need to go so i can depend parts of my daily income from the game and maybe stop working part time.

And strange thing happens and i can confirm that my opinion and feeling about my knowledge is correct because when i read about the X know system from a math expert i could see that i had same conclusions and even post about does subject in the past at public forums. So i have been on the right track all they way from 2008 until now and now i understand the weight behind my work and knowledge as i can feel that other experts say the same thing, but that knowledge has been hidden from me as i did no like to pay for information in the past - but change my mind.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2017, 04:08:00 PM »
Fool is born every hour. There is possibility to aquire knolidge in this world by studing yourself and practicing, not by subscribing to private forums. Even if info worth it, without practicing it's just an ifrormation.
   Prices of 1k to subskribe to something where they tolk gambling.... 600 per year... carefull, lucky. When you pay such a money upfront , make sure it worth it. Remember story of 1k scatter method? It turned out to be fake...
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2017, 04:43:19 PM »
Mr perfect, I can see your point, but, I think sput, is being completely responsible in his advancement toward a higher level of play. We all must feed our heads at a rate that is satisfying to our learning curve. I for one applaud his decision.
He very clearly stated why he is moving towards this and I see no haste. At some point we all out grow out current situation and need to move up!     Respectfully, the juice