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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #630 on: May 24, 2017, 01:30:47 PM »
Yep, I have a kind of idea on this. Using the repetition info we can narrow and on the Let's make a HG thread I run tests and 37 spins cycle has 99 percent change to have third repeater. He always wins when there is a repeater. So we know this fact that there is going to be a 2 repeater and in most cases 3 repeater. So we dont need to play all the spins. We look for a section that has most of hits or 2 repeaters for a hit.

 
 

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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #631 on: May 24, 2017, 02:02:30 PM »
his session dump end with a repeater but maybe it doesn't mean anything. And anyway it's not the third 21 that hit but only for a second time. It's very difficult to find a logic about his bet selection and number played with the info he gave. Maybe one of the most valuable information is the section when he said he didn't had a hit in the following ten spins to close the game. I analyzed many times this section without being able to find any logic around what he can select with this section. I was convinced at a moment he's betting a mixed selection and quite sure he's not betting the same amount on all of them so some hits close the games and some other not. If you look closely at some statistics he gave about 2-3 sessions he played you will see that the stats at 3rd and fourth spin doesn't follow the stats of a direct win at these stages (where we know he's playing 24 numbers) so i concluded that he must necessary play a combination of bet to make these stats possible. one of the idea was at 3rd bet he bets a column and 3 ds. Total 24 numbers. Hitting the intersections close the game the others not. There should be an explaination and a logic behind his betting scheme : why betting 18-18-24-24-24 until hit then reduce in a recovery mode. all of this must follow a whole logic to make it work and recover at the end.

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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #632 on: May 24, 2017, 04:30:18 PM »
I don't really believe him. Magic progression. I don't really understand these people who come to gambling forums and tell they have a winning method and then tell nothing about it.

Magical progression :D

And he also tells that he only need the progression. But how can you win if there is no hits.  No progression can do that.

So how can we assure a hit. And the recovery is so magical too.  He says no EC and then he says I play EC when system asks for it. 

He tells the story and relates to every roulette player who has played progression and lost. Stakes get higher and higher.

OK, I tell you what. There is challenges that pay out real money for winning systems and tests also.

If you knew a sure winner would you take noble price for it? Name in history? Or would you just grind with 0.25 cent stakes and try to win. It's like a scam.

I'm sure that there is a lot of people who have tried and a lot of people groups that have tried and failed. I cannot  bend the odds to my favor when it happens. Any system can win but how much before the loss comes that's the thing.

But sure 100 percent win method it's a joke. We all know we are gambling and it's impossible to make a progression that wins 100 percent.  The numbers dictate what happens.
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #633 on: May 24, 2017, 05:06:05 PM »
Brick, respectfully, I disagree. But hey, we are all entitled to our opinions.
 

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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #634 on: May 25, 2017, 05:33:44 AM »
 I found this post and orginaly posted on VLS roulette by GLC, but its turbos parachute and I think that talos uses the same think. This is how we can bend the odds.

It's called 50 max because it is based on only being able to bet 50 units maximum.

The system is designed to provide a chart that tells you what to bet to be able to win a certain unit amount with the lowest odds of loss.

I think this system will satisfy all those who want to win 1 unit per day.  Or you could use it to win 1 unit per attack and play as many attacks each day as you want.

I will present the system the way he did by betting for a repeat of the Hi or Lo, Dozen, Line, Corner, Street, Split, or Single number.

If you think you have a better bet selection method(s) by all means, use them.

Here's the system.  We are trying to win 1 unit.

We start with a 6 step marty 1-2-4-8-16-32. 

As long as we win once in the 1st 6 bets, we will win our 1 unit.  We can't bet a 7th step marty because that would put us over our 50 unit max bet.  If we lose 6 straight bets we will be -63 units and will need to go to betting on dozens or columns to stay below 50 units per bet.

Our dozens bet will be 32 units on the last dozen to hit which if it wins will pay 64.  We are down 63 units so that will give us our 1 unit win. 

If we lose this bet we will be down 95 units and will have to bet 48 units on the last dozen to hit.  If we lose this bet, we will be down 143 units.  We would have to bet more than 50 units to reach +1 if we bet on dozens, so we will have to make a Line bet because it pays 5:1.

We must bet 29 units on the last line to hit.  That will pay us 145 units which is +2 units over our -143 units and we can start over on our 6 step marty.

That should be enough explanation for you to get the idea, so I'm just going to give you the progression.

Even chance bets Hi or Lo (or R/B or O/E)
1
2
4
8
16
32

Dozens
32
48

Lines
29
35
42
50

Corners
38
43
48

Streets
39
43
47

Splits
33
35
37
42
45
48
50

Straight number
26
27
28
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
45
46
47
49
50

That's it.  All you have to do is win just 1 of these 49 bets to reach +1.

If you happen to lose all 49 bets, it will cost you 1783 units.  So please test this thoroughly before you decide to play for real money.

Just in case you don't like a maximum bet of 50, you can extend it to 100 or 200 or whatever.  You will have to rework the bets, but that's easy enough to do.  It'll just take some time, but the math is simple.

If you make the maximum bet 100, you can get more bets at the better odds and eliminate some of the bets on Splits and Single numbers.

Play with it and see how it best fits your playing style.

LOL

GLC   
 
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #635 on: May 25, 2017, 05:57:06 AM »
This got to be one of the best Parachute Methods i've ever seen. Thanks for bringin' it up.
 

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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #636 on: May 25, 2017, 06:09:35 AM »
This could be the one hit secret. I also think that he uses laboucherette or similar. So now I think he has many progressions and stages. And at the end he uses parachute. There is no any way how he can extend the more dept more spins.

http://www.roulette30.com/win/win-roulette-romanosky-secret-strategy

This came into my mind how he could be playing in the first phases. He talks about covering a lot of numbers with less units.

Also the method of unis on Low and units on 3 dozen is almost like this. Has high win rate.
 

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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #637 on: May 26, 2017, 12:00:05 AM »
I have done some refining and expansion of the excellent May 11 post (Reply#618) by Frequency. This progression is actually made up of many pieces of progressions "spliced" together to optimally suit each of the bet types as they come.

The list below is in this format....  BET NUMBER. (UNITS WAGERED)

EVEN CHANCE
1.(1)
2.(2)
3.(4)

DOZENS
4.(4)
5.(6)
6.(9)

NINE NUMBER [THREE STREETS]
7.(9) 3u on each street
8.(12) 4u on each street

DOUBLE STREETS
9.(10)
10.(12)
11.(14)

QUADS
12.(12)
13.(14)

STREETS
14.(10)
15.(11)
16.(12)
17.(13)
18.(15)
19.(16)
20.(17)

SPLITS
21.(12)
22.(13)
23.(14)
24.(15)
25.(16)
26.(17)
27.(18)
28.(19)
29.(20)
30.(21)
31.(22)
32.(23)

ONE NUMBER
33.(12)
34.(13)
35.(13)
36.(13)
37.(14)
38.(14)
39.(15)
40.(15)
41.(15)
42.(16)
43.(16)
44.(17)
45.(17)
46.(18)
47.(18)
48.(19)
49.(19)
50.(20)
51.(20)
52.(21)
53.(22)
54.(22)
55.(23)
56.(24)
57.(24)
58.(25)
59.(26)
60.(26)
61.(27)
62.(28)
63.(29)
64.(29)
65.(30)
66.(31)
67.(32)
68.(33)
69.(34)
70.(35)
71.(36)
72.(37)
73.(38)
74.(39)
75.(40)
76.(41)
77.(42)
78.(43)
79.(44)
80.(46)
81.(47)
82.(48)
83.(49)
84.(51)
85.(52)
86.(54)
87.(55)
88.(57)
89.(59)
90.(60)
91.(62)
92.(64)
93.(66)
94.(68)
95.(69)
96.(71)
97.(73)
98.(76)
99.(78)
100.(80)
101.(82)
102.(85)
103.(87)
104.(89)
105.(92)
106.(95)
107.(97)
108.(100)

Admittedly 108 wagers seems quite absurd, but I wanted to show the full spectrum of its capabilities. I personally wouldn't go much beyond bet #58 (25 unit level), but that's a matter of taste. Some (not as faint of heart as I) might want to press forward. I concluded at bet #108 because that would be at the 100 unit level. One might be hard pressed to find a casino on the planet that would accept such a wager on a single number beyond this. You could even expand this further if you want.....I leave it to you to do the maths.

Each bet is structured to produce at least a 1 unit profit (up to as much as 35), and will complete the recovery of losses up to that point.

You will find that the vast majority of wins will occur early on....so much so that the first 20 spins, or the like, might be a good system in and of itself.

Of course upon any win, you immediately revert back to bet #1, and restart the process.

If Talos uses anything remotely like this.....he must have a cheat sheet (list of the progression) on his person while playing. To memorize what and how much to wager for 108 bets would require a beyond super-human memory.

I have done some testing on this. In 1500+ spins....my longest drought ended with a win on the 41st bet (the 15u wager on the straight-up). A couple have made it into the 20's (the splits). It has produced an over 600 unit profit so far.

Anyway, it was a refreshing way to extend a method over many, many spins with an extremely high win ratio.

I seldom embrace methods involving substantial risk in return for "modest" gains. This is an exception only because the risk of any loss in a single cycle or session is so very small.
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #638 on: May 26, 2017, 07:26:49 PM »
MrTalos can't use this parachute version cause he's not searching to close the game in one spin except in the very first spins. So it can be a delayed or soft parachute kind of system it's possible but not this one. Furthermore he's playing even the first 2 bets then 24 numbers until the first hit then something else that nobody never found yet (probably reducing after the first hit). with the balance he shows in his session dump of 84 spins and only -182 at the worst point he's playing necessarily only few units a spin (i can't imagine he can put more than 20 units a spin) and necessarily enough number to catch a hit. i can't imagine he could play only 3 numbers or a street cause it can sleep for so long. he's betting selection remain a mystery and something a kind magical... how can you get guarantees hits if you lower the number you played too much. I will never play a parachute system like that when it fall to only one number. On average in 100 spins 5-6 numbers sleep, sometimes i saw even more.

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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #639 on: May 26, 2017, 10:56:14 PM »
Hi Jerome.....

Yes, Talos supposedly is able to keep his wagers low - even through rather lengthy sessions. If he does indeed do this...it surely is at least one key to the mystery.

But I think our efforts to unlock this "mystery" are not in vain. The answer (or answers) are out there. If he could figure it out - surely we can. Revelations are not totally exclusive to him.
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #640 on: May 29, 2017, 11:37:56 AM »
Here's another one out of my gambling arsenal, it's a "target/parachute" with a d'Alembert twist!

BET     UNITS   TOTAL     PROFIT
EC           1         1              1
EC           2         3              1
EC           3         6              0
D/C         4         10            2
D/C         5         15            0
LINE        6         21           15
LINE        7         28           14
LINE        8         36           12
LINE        9         45            9
LINE        10        55           5
LINE        11        66           0
QUAD      12        78          30
QUAD      13       91           26
QUAD      14      105          21
QUAD      15      120          15
QUAD      16      136          8
QUAD      17      153          0
STREET    18      171         45
STREET    19      190         38
STREET    20      210         30
STREET    21      231         21
STREET    22      253         11
STREET    23      276          0
SPLIT       24      300        132
SPLIT       25      325        125
SPLIT       26      351        117
SPLIT       27      378        108
SPLIT       28      406         98
SPLIT       29      435         87
SPLIT        30      465         75
SPLIT        31      496         62
SPLIT        32      528         48
SPLIT        33      561         33
SPLIT        34      595         17
SPLIT        35      630          0
NUMBER    36      666        630
NUMBER    37      703        629
NUMBER    38      741        627
NUMBER    39      780        624
NUMBER    40      820        620
NUMBER    41      861        615
NUMBER    42      903        609
NUMBER    43      946        602
NUMBER    44      990        594
NUMBER    45      1035      585
NUMBER    46      1081      575
NUMBER    47      1128      564
NUMBER    48      1176      552
NUMBER    49      1225      539
NUMBER    50      1275      525
NUMBER    51      1326      510
NUMBER    52      1378      494
NUMBER    53      1431      477
NUMBER    54      1485      459
NUMBER    55      1540      440
NUMBER    56      1596      420
NUMBER    57      1653      399
NUMBER    58      1711      377
NUMBER    59      1770      354
NUMBER    60      1830      330
NUMBER    61      1891      305
NUMBER    62      1953      279
NUMBER    63      2016      252
NUMBER    64      2080      224
NUMBER    65      2145      195
NUMBER    66      2211      165
NUMBER    67      2278      134
NUMBER    68      2346      102
NUMBER    69      2415       69
NUMBER    70      2485       35
NUMBER     71     2556        0

One win out of 71 bets is enough to provides profit or break even, buona fortuna!;-)
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #641 on: May 29, 2017, 04:59:54 PM »
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #642 on: May 29, 2017, 05:05:11 PM »

Yes, you're wrong because the total that far (including the bet) is 10 units and with a win I get back 12 units, thus 2 units net.
I call it "Colpo Grosso".
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Re: Talos_Dump
« Reply #643 on: May 29, 2017, 05:27:37 PM »
Got it, I see what you did now, sorry!