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Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« on: October 10, 2016, 09:51:08 PM »
Hi all,
I just thought to ask for help from people, who had interest and knowledge of online roulette; specially of live dealer roulette.
I was thinking recently to play online live dealer roulette with   real money but thought to study a bit if this is fair enough.
I thought a thing that if two people from different device join a same live dealer roulette table and wager in opposite color and get the same result then it might be considered as fair enough since thus it could be proved that there won't be any interference on one's winning streak or something.
Another thing I won pretty big sum few couple of times from online roulette site which allow me to consider these fair. Though once while I won £34,000 in William hills; they did blocked me for time being and took two weeks to pay me my withdrawal while usual time was three working days.
Anyway may I take the opportunity to ask people for their advice, belief and experience about online roulette and specially about live dealer roulette thing. Regards.


 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 12:28:19 AM »
I'm far from an expert but I have noticed that very many of the live online roulette locations have pretty dismal bet limits... :shrug:
 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 04:09:15 PM »
Hello badhan and welcome to the forum,

I think we can never be 100% sure, we have to trust them.
But then, what else can someone do?

Btw, I find your method of checking integrity by betting opposite bet selections quite smart.
 
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 06:12:35 PM »
Hello badhan and welcome to the forum,

I think we can never be 100% sure, we have to trust them.
But then, what else can someone do?

Btw, I find your method of checking integrity by betting opposite bet selections quite smart.
Unless he is talking about virtual bets or a No Zero table it is not smart to bet both EC on the same spin as you cannot win but can lose if zero occurs. IMO
 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2016, 03:17:42 AM »
I'm far from an expert but I have noticed that very many of the live online roulette locations have pretty dismal bet limits... :shrug:

I'm far from an expert but I have noticed that very many of the live online roulette locations have pretty dismal bet limits... :shrug:

You are very much right, bet limit is first weapon of house to limit player's win which bother most. Only positive thing about a odd bet limit is it that helps to take instant decision for not to try the table. I even found an online casino immediately raise the minimum bet for red/ black from ten pence to one pound after I had a pretty handsome win. Some casinos which offer minimum 100 unit for even bets seems weird to me like a ''don't play'' notice rather could be used.
I know that tolerable bet limits with little room for players to win may be Appreciatable some time, specially when an andralin rush would hardly allow me to stop raising bets unless I finish even a healthy bank roll; but still way too tight bet limits are not onely of no use but also create kinda tense vibe to see.

I understand casinos might keep those tight bet limits from the constant insecurity they had to go through for losing money, since they know a smart player would find a way to win some how at any conditions. Like when we can't wager bigger amount at red/ black or at even bets; we'd go for street or double streets, I even tried to put chips around my desired number to level it up at a higher wager.
But the thing is an odd looking bet limit can kill the beauty of a game whether it for roulette or black jack or any other. Seeing a Bet limit like that reminds me the very presence of money in the game and pops up some starnge tense vibe which really they do not have to.
Roulette is an absolute fun for me where I can exercise my brain for hours willingly with joy. If I want to win money to buy an extra drink for me that should be ok i suppose, as creator of James Bond roulette system told a person could buy a decent dinner after a win using the nice system.
Roulette is not only about money since everybody some how earns money and there are lots of ways where people are earning money using far less of their brain. Like in online forex trading I found a person can earn much more bucks using less bank roll, less risk, less effort and more over with less use of one's brain.

Recently I register in a new online casino and couldn't see their roulette tables and bet limits unless I process the register criteria but as soon I as I've seen their roulette table bet limits I knew the time is wasted.

So far I've seen different online casinos I found William hill live dealer casino tables were with much room of bet limits like from 1 - 8000 units maximum as I can remember.
That's quite good still I've seen in this forum one persons mention that he plays his roulette stating from pennies, that means he plays in USD and might be enjoys a greater flexible bet limits at where he plays.

Wish you having found a table with suitable bet limits and all.

Regards

 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2016, 03:35:31 AM »
Well, I get the feeling also, that live dealer roulette online is FASTER than say playing a single wheel on the casino floor, in person?

Thanks for the 8000 unit tip!!!
 

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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 10:18:18 AM »
All internet  performances can be manipulate. 100% Certainity for a honest intenet casino can not be given.

For a Dutch roulettesite I am researching some live roulette casinos.  Soon I will publish my results on this forum. My first impression is very positive.
 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 11:02:43 AM »

Being a professional player myself, relying on a Casinos ability for swift and secure withdrawals I have to this date probably gone through most online casinos with live dealers.

There are to days date only two casinos that carry, what I call, a perfect service for online professional roulette players,

The first one is Dublinbet that uses the famous fitzwilliams casino as a proxy for its live dealer casino broadcasting. They also use the studio casino packages provided by NETENT and Evolution which are not to recommend as their betwindow is too short for serious play.

The other one, and my favourite, is portomasolive which is a beautiful Casino based on Malta at S:t Julians

I have earned thousands of euro this year playing in this Casino in its top notch online platforms that offers real pro-tables with real players and HD video broadcasting for those that cannot visit their facility on Malta).



here you can see what they offer

and here is how the tables look like:





All in all, it can be said that todays "industry standard" for betwindows (spin to spin window for betting) are very low in most online casinos that use standard platforms like NETENT and Evolution (the latter being the lowest).

Casinos like Dublinbet and Portomaso have their own excellent platforms and their players enjoy betwindows and a serious game with betwindows between 30sek and up to several minutes depending on how much ppl are at the tables. For an online player that is perfect as to test various strategies and platforms demanding certain time of thought and strategythinking.

When it comes to cheating software, on roulette, I can only say that certain, less serious casinos, use it in various ways and also by using "lega actions",  like net-congestion, faster closing of betwindow than what the countdown clock shows on the platform, refusal of withdrawals due to certain obscure causes they deem right, and of course other ways to induce stress in a player that tend to win too much.

Finding good online casinos is an art, and the few available are real treasures for the professional player making a good living on them or at least a good extra income beyond his or hers normal income.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 12:10:14 PM »
Nice to see you again Thomas! :D
 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 12:30:44 PM »
Thanx, Reyth.
 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 09:06:54 AM »
Read this please:
Rigged roulette Wheels (online, live, RNG, FOBT)
And watch this please:

Everyone's feedback is appreciated.

PS: thomasleor, what's your connection with portomaso?
 
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Re: Wonder if live dealer roulette thing is fair enough !!
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2017, 12:08:48 PM »
I am a VIP client there. Enjoying the best Live roulette online via their HD broadcasting services.  Beyond that nothing extraordinary. I always recommend them to people with bad experiences from scamming online casinos like for example most recently the Brittish owned Smart live Gaming casino that went bust and scammed all their customers (incl. a friend of mine) on all their deposits.

I only trust two types of online Casinos; Those owned by a physical major casino in Europe and sending direct live broadcast from their tables with real customers from their Grande Salon.

Some of these are: In Malta - Portomaso casino, Oracle Casino and Draghonara Casino.

In Italy you find the excellent and beautiful classical Casinos San Remo Casino, Saint Vincent Casino and a few others. If you are not Italian you can access the famous Saint Vincent via their proxy Unibet.

The other type of online casino I trust are those offered by stock exchange registered billion Euro corporations like Unibet or Ladbrokes. These are primaraly sport betting companies and roulette is but a tiny service they offer customers that love such games beside sports betting.

I never recommend anyone to my favourite casinos just to receive any small referral payment because I dont need such money. It is merely a friendly share with those I hope avoid the few bad apples out there that obey no regulatory authorities and only go for the short scam before they close and reopen under new name (most often US and UK owned "online" casinos).

So there you have it. Cut and dried.
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