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 More or less 3 years ego l came to ask Real following qwestion " Why the hell me ( VB player exclusively at the time) do have mixed results..  one day it works OK,  others it just sucks... ?"
     He told me that VB have levels of understanding,  or layers .
     First folks learn how to determine reference number properly, then how to adjust for rotor...then how to include bias in the game... ets. Every step in the right direction maximise players edge.
    Sins then l made a proper research and training to achieve 5th layer of understanding and found myself alone there.
    My view on levels that player has to achieve are following:
   1. Adjusting for rotor properly
    2. Adjusting for observational errors
    3. Adjusting for changes in conditions
    4. Adjusting for imperfections on the wheel in changing conditions
    5. Adjusting for effect that imperfections do make on different dealer spinning habits.
         There is 6th level of understanding. ... it's proper money management,  constant curve fit in betting plan for observed changes in situation... and this is where l stacked. ...
    To determine best practices to follow l need a knolidge base constituted of previously profiled play situations. ... problem is : need proper data collected with full profile of variables. It's a work to perform by 2 trackers at least. One is to control VB things and other to watch and register bias things and affect that dealer has on these things. In short , it's a team work task.
    For one player army it's simply impossible. ...
           If there are there 2 man armies willing to invest their time and effort in pushing things forward for themselves and me ( as indirect beneficiary) ..  you are welcome to contact me.
     
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Junscissorhands on Yesterday at 02:31:54 AM »


Yes that's why in my earlier posts i've said some people won't find the final form of the bet.

There are way too many variables. During my researches i've had many WOW / Eureka! / Lightbulb -moments.

Look at Duncan's picture again. Look at the table vertically, note down the first 3 from top to bottom you see RCC the winning (orange) result was or is ALWAYS C. Try finding 7 other combinations of 3 and the winning or losing result next to it. All of them have exactly the same WINNING or LOSING result

There are many, many things hidden in those charts.
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Reyth on Yesterday at 02:24:17 AM »
Ok kewl.  Well ya, I am working on "my Duncan bet" then. :)

One point of confusion is how we commonly use the word "trigger".  I think this statement helps:

The betting spin is the 6th and the triggers are 4...

But why his sessions vary in width, I have no clue with any certainty at all.
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Junscissorhands on Yesterday at 02:08:13 AM »


I approach it vertically, collecting results to form 4 movements then betting opposite. Duncan has never explained it in details on how to play the bet. But gave clues so that i can find a winning bet.

Mini-session ends when win-ratio is in + (ofcourse it must be a satisfying result based on the average units that can be won in 100 spins)

100 spins = testing purposes only.

Some sessions when you are up and you keep playing continously you might end up losing a few units again and it will take X amount of spins to recover (which of course will).

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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Reyth on Yesterday at 01:58:36 AM »

How do you determine that ONE trigger ? (after 6 spins?)

He said he was betting Columns.  He said the Trigger bet was the 6th spin back (look 6 back).  However, a hidden aspect of this is that you actually need 7 spins to generate the 6 results of C/R; because otherwise the 6th bet would be "in the future" and would make no sense for trapping a specific Movement.

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Also what makes Duncan finish his mini-session horizontally and move on to the next ?

This has bothered me very much and so far the answer that I have come up would be that:

"if the Movement that he is trapping is continuing, he continues the horizontal session (8 length).  If it has substantially changed, he ends it early (5 length)".

Unfortunately, this explanation is unsatisfactory because each mini-session has a uniform length, which also has bothered me very much.

The only other answer I have is that he has decided to change the betting Trigger length for a grouping of sessions for what reason I have no idea; why it would continue for 4 individual lines the same length makes no sense unless it is just arbitrary or he is examining a whole lot more than just 6 spins.

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He played and tested 100 spins consecutively.

1) His spin count was 121
2) They are not consecutive (in analysis) because he generated a new "root" with each new line.
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Junscissorhands on Yesterday at 01:44:01 AM »


How do you determine that ONE trigger ? (after 6 spins?)

Also what makes Duncan finish his mini-session horizontally and move on to the next ?

He played and tested 100 spins consecutively.

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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Reyth on Yesterday at 01:37:41 AM »
Ok kewl.  Actually that's a great way to mend international rifts! :D

So what do you think about Duncan's ONE Trigger that he applied to his pictured session where he bet exclusively OPPOSITE OF LAST result?
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Junscissorhands on Yesterday at 01:28:12 AM »


No but mixed heritage, Japanese and Chinese. (i know politically incorrect) ;)

Reyth, let me explain:

In 3 movements there are 2 triggers.

And, 3 movements form 1 trigger.

BUT,

there are many variables, you have EC's and you have Dozens and Columns.
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Reyth on Yesterday at 01:15:03 AM »
EDIT: My apologies, I thought you might be Korean.  I will correct this from now on.

Jun let me just ask you and all you have to do is answer "yes" or "no":

In your bet are you playing against 3 Movements, using 4 Triggers?

If we are playing the bet that Duncan is playing, we know 100% for a fact that the 3 Movements are:

Series
Mixed
Cross Combinations

We also know 100% for a fact that the Triggers MUST trap for these Movements quickly and they must change as the Movements change.

Duncan told us that he showed us ONE of the Triggers in his pictured session.  We know 100% for a fact that he was betting "OPPOSITE OF LAST SPUN RESULT"; if the result he obtained in the last spin (while betting) was "C" then he then bet "R" and if he obtained "R" he then bet "C".

Furthermore, since we know 100% for a fact that the Triggers MUST trap for specific Movements and we know the Trigger he was using was OPPOSITE OF LAST, we can discover WHICH RESULTS he was betting to trap by plotting out a 100% winning sequence:

R = CRCRCR 100% WIN = Mixed Results Movement
C = RCRCRC 100% WIN = Mixed Results Movement

We can even verify this by examining those few lines where he got all wins and we will see the CRCRCR or RCRCRC pattern there.

Now, as far as what the other 3 Triggers ACTUALLY are, that is up to question.  I have proposed 3 of them that make VERY much sense to me and correspond with both the 3 Movements concept in its entirety AND the Cross Combination results that he TOLD us the Triggers trap; 2 of my proposed Triggers when combined, trap ALL FOUR Cross Combination results.  Each Trigger traps 3 of the 4, excluding a different 4th one and so all we would have to do is determine which 1 of the 2 excluded Cross Combination results we didn't wish to trap.

This gives me great confidence that the Triggers I have identified are correct and if I am not 100% correct, I am very close to being so.

If you could please answer my bolded question with "yes" or "no" that would be very helpful to me.  Feel free to comment on anything else I have typed; anything that I have labeled "100% fact" I do not feel is open to question unless someone is able to explain exactly how 1) I am wrong BY 2) Showing me the true interpretation.

Sorry if I sound like a pompous mule here but I am just trying to create intellectual clarity in our discussions as I have enough problems just trying to understand and test this system without having to deal with any additional confusion.

I hope you understand and we can converse?
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Casino Lounge / Re: A message for thanks to Charles win3million
« Last post by Junscissorhands on Yesterday at 01:05:44 AM »
So much attention in details, but you still rape my name...twice>:(   Thanks reighth !
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