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The Strategic Player (SP).
« on: February 06, 2018, 10:14:07 AM »
A Strategic Player (SP) is a player who makes use of their knowledge, experience and honed skills to steer their play using the above to culminate in a win or to abandon an attack.

We are all aware that there is no infallible method of play due to variance and having an edge over the house is also subject to variance.

Long term testing reveals much about a "system" and the test results will indicate the strengths and weaknesses of the system. With this information basic rules are put into place to counter the weaknesses. It's not enough to blindly play a method without considering other aspects that can be used to steer your play. Playing strategically may steer you to a win depending on the actions you take.

The forum is littered with good advice for any player who wants to learn and improve their current status.

A fine example is Palestis and what he wrote in "What Have You Learned?"
"What system at play is not important. You only have to determine how many series of bets each system requires to get at least one hit."

Palestis emphasises micro managing mini-sessions within a session.

This I feel is a topic worthy of discussion.


 
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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2018, 04:17:25 PM »
By being a SP you allocate yourself room to think and analyse within tested boundaries. Strategic play has its limits and the ideal is to end a "play" in a profit. All systems are vulnerable to variance. Variance is the only thing that we can influence. We can not change the house edge due to the uneven payout. What we can possibly change is the effect that variance has on our game. Nothing can determine what effect variance will have on our game. If anyone has a way to control variance, this is your platform.
 
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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2018, 04:41:10 PM »
Try NOZ and if you get better with a HA, just go on!
 
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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2018, 06:00:06 PM »
NOZ in my country does not exist - sadly - I have never seen a no zero wheel in real life. Sadly... obscure places in Africa have not burnt tyres, cars, people, trains or buildings demanding no zero wheels and free roulette training. ....Sadly I still learn from first world countries.
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2018, 06:03:13 PM »
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Strategic play has its limits and the ideal is to end a "play" in a profit

You mean that we should be trying to win? ::)

Rather stating the obvious why don't you define something.  Lay out your plan like Ignatus and sometimes Reyth do.  Say what you will about their wild systems, but they explain it rather than trying to be pretentious. (Most of the time).  Reyth also uses some cool graphics when he's in his element.  I don't really care much about the systems, but the presentations they make can be kind of visually cool.
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2018, 06:17:05 PM »
Ditto! A visually cool graphic of AP will be cool instead of the usual clown pictures.

Quoting one line from written text is as old as the bible. You learn this in "How to make your first million 101."  LOL

On a serious note; the answer to your question is YES, we should be trying to win.
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2018, 06:26:28 PM »
MickyP,

Seriously now, study how Ignatus posts.  Look at Reyths graphics.  They're visually stimulating and it's not pompus philosophical dribble.  They have an idea and they put it out there. 

Say what you will but some posts have an entertainment value too.
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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 07:03:30 PM »
I agree with you Real, however, this is not a sales pitch. I'm sharing, not selling, recruiting or brainwashing. Ignatus has some good systems but what's the point of posting systems if he does not answer basic questions like, "Please explain how you determine your bet selection?"

A system with graphs showing success should p*S's you off to no end. How strange that you endorse Ignatus.

Reyth engages in discussion and is open to new ideas as is Palestis. Even Scepticus is open to discussion in spite of ridicule from the peanut gallery and I have been party to throwing peanuts at him as well.

We learn from people who engage in dialogue.
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2018, 07:14:18 PM »
Micky,

If you want to really learn about how to win, then you need to read what the AP, risk consultants, the wheel engineers, and mechanics have to say.  Follow their twitter feeds, websites, attend the risk and manufacturing  conventions, and learn basic probability. It also helps to have a background in engineering and or coding.  Get some wheels.  Take them apart.  Find the flaws.

(If you're wise you'll read what I've written above several times.)
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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2018, 07:22:40 PM »
Do you have a background in engineering Real ?
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2018, 07:33:45 PM »
World game protection.  Study it.
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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 07:42:42 PM »
Do you have a background in engineering Real ?
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2018, 08:02:23 PM »
I studied it but I am NOT an egineer.
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2018, 08:04:35 PM »
Thank you for the insightful post Real.

 I am learning about AP from applying my own mind to the subject. I would not waste my time on the subject if I considered it as snake oil. I currently have cemented methods that I use to generate an income for myself. As I said, I work in the casino. It's my office paid for by my school fees from years back (lol).

What I'm sharing here is the basic concept of my tried and tested method of getting that much needed monthly income. Palestis has a similar approach and it has worked for him. DrTalos also has a unique method of generating an income. I relate to them.

As far as AP is concerned I have the basics in hand and I do test my skills "virtually" at every possible opportunity. It's slow going but I'm in no hurry.
 

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Re: The Strategic Player (SP).
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2018, 08:21:58 PM »
Of course you are NOT an egineer Real , but are you an engineer ?