Mike, I understand your points.

I just want to show that because we talking probabilities here, we can not be certain or "prove" things, just like that, with "simple arithmetic" like Real said.

We can discuss your valid points, but first we must clear the impression and blanket statements, that System players do not understand probabilities and math. By showing that there can not be proof that a roulette player will lose in 10K spins, I want to show that it is them who fanatically claim this, that don't understand probabilities and math and the definition of mathematical proof.

Real, talks about facts and math. He knows math and system players don't. Well, tomorrow I will post the answer of some of the best math guys on the web. They say that "it can NOT be mathematically proven that you will lose even one bet in 10K spins", let alone lose overall.