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dobbelsteen

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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2017, 09:20:29 AM »
Who are you answering and what was the question?
 
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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2017, 04:00:15 PM »


The question is about progressions and that they fail and how to keep winnings and not give them all back.
Same old story.

My answer to this was reverse, if you skip progressions and methods and start with the money management method, then you limit your self to what you can do and what you not can do. Then you discover that most progressions does not work with the money management method and you need to change your thinking process towards how to tackle the game. Also does not all kind of selection methods work with some money management methods and again you limit your self.

So when you start from that perspective you move one step into the right direction and tackle roulette from a new angle where only smooth progressions are allowed with selection methods with high strike ratio.
In one way it takes more skills to develop working methods that work with some money management method.

I have Brett Morton and John Patrick in mind.
This is not writing in stone - i just share my opinion.

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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2017, 09:30:59 AM »
Sputnik my problem is that I have no knowledge about money management. I think only in units. I do not try to beat the roulette. The features of the random row have my interest. At the first place , my goal is to finish my session with more units than I started.  That means that I leave the casino with more money than at entrance. The roulette is not a pin money machine.
I will google on Brett Morton and John Patrick
 

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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2017, 10:14:50 AM »
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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2017, 10:15:13 AM »

I also have material of John Patrick - se PM ...

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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2017, 12:12:01 PM »

Brett Morton Money Management
http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=158.msg1060#msg1060

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Brett Morton money management is so easy to use and I can see the effectiveness of it being incorporated into an approach. It can also be seen as a progression management system. I'll play around with this a little.
 
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Re: Progression safety.
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2017, 02:33:35 PM »
I think  the question is not correct formulated. You can start flat betting on a random street. The theoretical loss of 11 units is 1100\2,7=407 spins. The game is a short run game. This means that the chance that you win a small profit within the 400 spins is very large. Hit and run and you go home with a profit between 1 and 11.
 
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« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2017, 09:31:47 PM »
"When is it advisable to stop the progression and reset the game relative to your bankroll?" >> Very easy question. Dont ever start the progression, flat betting only. HAVE a decent enough bet selection where you dont need a progression.

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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2017, 10:18:48 PM »
Ken, flat bet is good to evaluate opportunity,  not really to explore it. Unless you are already at table maximum and got no other choice,  positive progression of some kind will be better option ( time/ money).
   You are right about bet selection. .. it should work with flat bet to be explored with progression.
 

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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2017, 12:37:11 AM »
Positive progression? Well of course but MOST only talk about a negative progression. I would say its around 20/80% differential. Heck, there are many that dont even know the definition of a pos. progression without looking it up first, sad.

Ken
 
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