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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2017, 11:23:01 PM »
Fyodor, l haven't seen unbiased wheel. .. and this is a difference between us. I do not play where l can not win and do not speak about things l do not know.
   Bias are imperfections. Every part of wheel can and with the time will have these. Things are not forever,  and are not perfectly designed or manufactured.
   Way to see bias is simple, it's how any engineering stuff used to inspect any mechanism that has rotating parts before computer era. Recearch and you will find.
 
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2017, 04:32:40 AM »
If you have never seen an " unbiased" wheel, and you do not play where you cannot win, you either never play at all, or you have your own casino.
I would find any of the above options difficult to accept.
The (AP) expression gets used to describe so called Advantage Players, but there are none, who fit the mould as it is being described here.
KP's  (Knowledgeable Players) would be a more accurate term, people like Mr Dobbelsteen, Reyth, and Kav for instance.
The next level includes the LS's (Life Students) who learn as much as they can comprehend, ask the awkward questions and use the info to gain some experiences (and money)
Should any ten people who (actually) play roulette, met to discuss the most appropriate winning strategy, they would be unlikely to reach a consensus in 20yrs.
BTW, I am comfortable being an LS, and attempt to learn something new every day.
Face it, having some disposable income is a rare  privilege in this current dangerous world.
If there is no risk, there is no reward, and, as has been previously pointed out, to simply exist, each one of us won the 5,000,000+ to 1 sperm lottery.
So, roulette should be a cinch.

 
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2017, 09:06:23 AM »
Reyth can you describe the bias of a pseudo RNG.
I have published manipulated pseudo RNGs with a hidden number 38 and creating a  random number sequence 0-36.
 
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2017, 12:20:12 PM »
Fyodor, everything is as expected. You shouldn't see bias, as you didn't got a skill yet and you shouldn't win, because you are gambler. 
    Roulette is not for everyone. To win, need to study and determination to perform such a study. If one do not do the study  (home work) , roulette destroy his money.
   I see your anger in your posts, it's OK to be beaten,problem is when people do not take any conclusions from it. Or do wrong conclusions.... especially so ,if they suck at the game and assume it's random... no one can help these.
 

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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2017, 01:17:58 PM »
Mr P, I am surprized at your conclusion about my state of mind, as I have never been angry about roulette, or its outcomes since I have been playing it.

And, I believe that not only do I have a qualifiable "skill" in negotiating a path through the minefield that the game lays out for ALL players, I would also estimate that I had more knowledge and understanding of roulette twenty five years ago, than you would learn in your lifetime.

The game I have less "skill" is this rich text crap.
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2017, 02:16:03 PM »
Fyodor, with all your understanding of 25 years, are you able to predict? I spent almost 6 years on roulette, 3 of these lm predicting very reasonably. 
   For someone who speaks about " so called AP" ..and is 25 years at least at the game... played on cruise ships... and is not angry with his game results..  you should really like it, Bro. 
   Your understanding is a garbage, and you are living prove of it.
 

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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2017, 03:11:07 PM »
Btw, just a quick note before I forget:

I am an ignorant and lazy player and I put myself in the LS category with everyone else.  I have some knowledge but I have not produced the commensurate results to go with it.

Reyth can you describe the bias of a pseudo RNG.
I have published manipulated pseudo RNGs with a hidden number 38 and creating a  random number sequence 0-36.

Very interesting point!  I was just thinking about this the other day.  I ran across a cryptocurrency casino that described the following process in their RNG (approximately):

"a number is generated and if it is too big or too small, a new number is generated"

I didn't like this process at all as I know it is possible to generate acceptable results with every pass.  I couldn't help thinking that this would create a bias somehow from the original data source?

However, this is not the kind of bias that I am "referring" to.  I call it RNG BiasTM because the LotT must create a clustering of numbers that have the highest hit:spin ratio; this occurs with my PRNG and on casino RNG's.  Even though I haven't tested it yet, I fully expect without doubt that it will also occur on Random.org as well.

My description of this phenomenon is what I call the Closed Circuit TriadTM:

1) Numbers 0-36
2) Geographically related felt locations 0-36
3) Sample sequence length

Where because all three of the above are limited (closed circuit), there must be a clustering of a felted location that has the highest hit:spin ratio.

I have observed this phenomenon for many tens of thousands of spins.  It is a perpetual constant.  There are fluctuations however where one such group will replace another and assume the same behavior. 

It is simply how the LotT functions with the understanding that after 37 spins, EVERY spin is a new LotT session and the entire sequence length represents ONE LotT session.

I believe that the wheel is also a closed circuit and can be used in addition to/in conjunction with the felted locations.
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2017, 02:25:53 AM »
Rng is not limited on numbers or their sequences.  Up till now l found only one limit... it was more legislation related.
 

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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2017, 03:20:57 AM »
I listed exactly how its limited.  ::)

Think a little deeper?  ;D

You know LotT = Law of the Third, right?
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2017, 02:03:18 PM »
Real data example?
 

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« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2017, 12:00:42 AM »
Here is a video example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJXFWmcMeCY&feature=youtu.be

Spin me any 300 length sequence of roulette numbers and I will prove it there as well.
 

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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2017, 01:14:37 PM »
Something gonna hit more. .. it just what happens there. The thing is how to predict when it starts and when it ends. Just 2 these things are enough to produce advantage for a player.
 Can you do that instead? 
 

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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2017, 11:10:19 PM »
I predict when it most probable to hit within 27 spins; I have seen chances as high as 99.999% in my sessions.  I am also able to generate chances for the next spin to hit and have seen chances above 99.5%.
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2017, 03:07:04 AM »
Even reading about it is scary.  Chance to miss 1/200 on next spin.... Exactly this what 99.5% mean...  don't tell anyone about it, if not you gonna be proclaimed most dangerous hacker in hystory. Casinos will consider option to kill you long before option of allowing you to play. If l had a casino, l would offer you 50% of win monthly to prevent you entering permices, just because we are friends.
 
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Re: Pay close attention
« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2017, 05:42:38 AM »
Yes, those times are rare sir (the chances of hitting that high).  I was betting quite large at these tmes!! :D

My betting criteria is 99.16% to hit within 27 spins or I don't bet and this based on BOTH static odds and cumulative gapping statistics (which generates the probability).

Unfortunately, like Mike has so accurately pointed out, my system simply doesn't work in "real" (B&M) casinos (due to unwieldy spin amounts required, very large bankroll and under certain conditions, maybe table limits).
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