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MrPerfect.

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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2017, 02:01:48 PM »
 GUYS, both Thomas and Mike... you both providing interesting reading and valuable contribution for a forum, l wanna thank you for that.
    But let's keep it real. Thomas looks like has a talent for stats, but sucks in physics and Mike is focused on physics but sucks in stats...
    To make reliable assumptions in this game player needs both stats and physics. So l wonder, what could be if instead of fighting, you guys combine your efforts...  fearsome team of players could be a result.
    This game is really not easy for individual player, team work is almost absolute requirement ... l say almost because one player army can actually make a damege, but this damege is limited to how much casino tolerates his action... team is not that obvious, so action is tolerated for longer.
   Guys, at the end of the day, you are probably on the same side of the table.... both of you have nothing to sell... so who knows, if you can be useful for each other.
    I myself arrived at the level of understanding where both of your points of view do in fact make some limited sense. .
    If Mike throw away " perfect wheel" model from his probability destributions and Thomas forget about his " strange atractors", both of you together will see finally solution to all your problems. These 2 things is a reason of conflict, nothing else.
    Guys if you want, add me on Skype,  l show you both that " strange..  " or " probability des. .." do in fact represent illusion. Both of you are one step of what really matters and can produce much higher result to your play.
 
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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2017, 08:26:41 AM »
Mike is focused on physics but sucks in stats...

lol. Mr P, I don't think I need to take lessons in stats from you (or Thomas for that matter), given your apparent understanding of statistical independence. There are quite a few creative interpretations of what independence means on this forum, but none of them reflect reality.
 

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« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2017, 09:44:47 AM »
Mike,  your understanding of applied stats is perfect?  Mine is definitely not, l only red around 30 books about this matter and understood almost everything l red there. Some people in casino industry would be happy to give me work or to hire me to monitor their wheels. They just do not like persentage l charge ( 10% from winnings ). And all of this thing to work for casino .... altrouth l already do in some form - lm great publicity of a "lucky" player.
 
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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2017, 11:19:04 AM »
Nobody's understanding of stats is perfect, there's always more to learn in this field. Actually I'm not sure that there is any disagreement between us regarding independence, it's just that you insist on using the term "spins" in the context of VB, not in the conventional way, which is confusing.
 

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« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2017, 12:34:00 PM »
Mike, mine understanding of stats is enough to upply on the go and make money from game like roulette, stock market, criptocurencies, sportsbetting ( this one lm being helped by professionals )... ets.
    I do not clame perfection, just aprocimation to reality in 99% of the time.
    I potentially can send to "walk" many professors from uni... in desceplines like applied physics, applied math, applied stats... applied combinatorics, applied engineering. ... whatever l studied myself l  do clame almost total understanding that covers at least 99% of situations. I really like to understand how to do things myself.... it's my hobby, my drive...
    There is a difference between kinds of stats. Main are univariate/multivariate. .. you need last one for roulette, besides other things.
   Spins are not past results!!!! Past results do not spin, if you get my point...
   If you gonna call past results ( numbers) by the name of "past results" , then everything will be in place... all disagreement will be gone.
    I really like to call phenomenon by its name, l decided to not participate in this " smoke screen" creation & maintenance that circle the game of roulette.
 
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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2017, 12:44:43 AM »
Actually, it IS about being the best.
The best you can be, on that table, on that day, with that wheel and that dealer.
And that state of mind.
And that size bank.
And etc....
 

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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2017, 12:57:33 AM »
I have a feeling that Thomas was referring to him from the opposite perspective, where Joe Gambler is just throwing his money away for a slogan and a song?
 
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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2017, 09:39:19 AM »
Well said, Reyth. Glad someone got that joke.