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thomasleor

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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2017, 06:35:39 PM »
Perhaps thomasleor  excel sheet applications functionality is not relevant where online casino live roulette is licensing its enough just when it's landbased casino roulette 
I assume he has greater confidence in landbased casinos roulette than live roulette made some studio


My platforms, are specifically developed to defeat any kind of wheel (Cammegh, Paul & Son, SET or Abbiati) used by the best online Casinos. When you have a file 15-30 Mb large (depending on platform) with advanced graphics and tens of thousands of algos conjunctely working "under the hood", while you view the main display, online Casinos are your main target. Land based Casinos only allow paper and pen and your brain,  so an IPAD with my platforms displaying vital information a normal brain is unable to calculate is out of the question to use.

Live Dealers at the tables in the main Salons, Pseudo dealers at Studios, or Auto-roulettes are irrelevant to the functionality and performance of said platforms which my test team over at VR Tech has proven true for over two years now.

The latest platform series known as Greyhound GWX can analyze and target any given 2-sector deviation generated by an auto roulette as the latter usually only have 27 active trajectory permutations (3 ball sizes, 3 rotor speeds, and 3 air-pressures) that combined affects the trajectory and final sector stop of a ball.

A live dealer, with so many more different variables, affecting the ball trajectory from even a point of non-spin, is way, way harder to calculate and predict by means of best sector probability than a fixed auto-roulette whose variables swiftly are revealed as calculable anomalies by my platform.

Unfortunately AR gaming is hideously boring to me, and I prefer a nice challenge like watching my GWX platform finding the sector signature from a live dealer at a given set of spins and then going for the kill, followed by the subsequent and highly enjoyable slaughter ;)
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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2017, 03:16:00 AM »

Nowadays even in online casinos it is possible to play land based casino tables these landbased roulettes and new land based roulettes will pop up some times more
 At one time few years ago there was only Fitzwillams Landbased Casino Roulette Ireland today can play already in relatively many land based casino Roulette tables online casinos but some persons not like play landbased casino roulettes because the some times game they have very slow gaming it takes quite much of time that next new spin will be come
 
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2017, 11:33:00 AM »
These who do not understand time frames of real casino - they are pathological looser's. 
    Slow game is a benefit, not a problem. It offers highest advantage of all : sit back, relax and THINK!!!!
    Playing online has one nesty requirement, it's a full time job. If in real casino you can come to the table and look yourself what is going on.... online there is no such an option. Factors in game can be determined statistically, but it takes time that online player often does not possess.  Wheels online are as predictable as offline, it's just wheel/ ball / dealer. ... but b&m offers additional advantages that are not that obvious for not serious player. It's a qeestion of practicability....
    Exactly for these reasons l stoped playing online... there are no reliable partners at the moment to share workload. And contrary to common belive, online it's much higher then b&m.
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 10:50:27 AM »
In my B&M casino they have changed in januari the wheels. Since that time I see the most unbelievable losing streaks .Yesterday I betted on C1 and C3 after 4 consecutive C2 I came in collision with a 12 C2 streak. The last time I see too many streaks of 8 and more. The physical  construction will be fulfill the demands of the gaming authority but I wonder the applied tracking software.
 
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2017, 12:57:40 PM »
Wow 1:25000 event.  Pretty amazing that it coincided with the new equipment... O_o
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 02:59:00 PM »
Since that time I see the most unbelievable losing streaks .Yesterday I betted on C1 and C3 after 4 consecutive C2 I came in collision with a 12 C2 streak.

Interesting remark. You have played the "old wise professor in roulette" on this board and now you tell us that you witnessed a 12 C2 streak at your local Casino and missed the opportunity to harvest a profit?? LOL

Had you applied a simple Win Loss ratio curve in your head or even on a paper if you have problems visualizing such a mathematical aid this is an example how your event would look like:

(as a Column has a 2 to 1 payout we use two rings for a win and one x for a loss to build our bet selection variance curve)

Now this number series is taken from an old session where the C2 went sideways. I removed the last 14 numbers and replaced them with a breakout of 12 consecutive wins and two final losses to show Break out, Trend and Entropy (stoploss).

This is how the smart money plays a column that shows a clear sign of a breakout:



Now, the dumb money, bereft with the compulsion of betting on a clear downtrend where the negative variance even breaks through a support line and continues sinking like Titanic would look like this chart below, parallell to the previous chart of the positive breakout.



It takes a singular stupidity to bet on something like this, and that on TWO columns showing the same development, while the FREE money are offered on the uptrend and where, however you put it, the breakout is always clear before the up-trend. Even three consecutive wins would had been a nice profit.

You have mentioned that you have a roulette school. Perhaps you should show them this and, above all, tell them what YOU DID while the Casino offered Money for free ;)
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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2017, 03:27:03 PM »
People who not respect math, they get no money... money loves math... and math lovers. These who respect money , money respet them in return.
    It is not a good idea to go egainst the TREND!!! Do never outsmart the trend.... trend is smarter then any player on this game. Resisting gives birth to conflict , conflict kills... following the trend is the main secret of any player.. be it systems or anything else. Follow what it does.. go with the flow..   swimming egainst the flow... well... it's for titans.   Main qwestion in this game... ARE YOU TITAN!!!!???? 
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2017, 04:47:50 PM »
It takes a singular stupidity to bet on something like this, and that on TWO columns showing the same development, while the FREE money are offered on the uptrend and where, however you put it, the breakout is always clear before the up-trend.

And it's only slightly less stupid to believe that trends have any value whatsoever in a random game like roulette. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.  ;)

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It is not a good idea to go egainst the TREND!!!

Hogwash. Show me the math which says following the trend has one iota more merit than betting against it in a random game.
 

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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2017, 04:51:10 PM »
Thomaslear this diagrams are very instructive for learning the features of the random rows. I use the knowledge to discover the step in for my wagers. Your diagrams show what I wrote about the positive and negative variances. Both are indicates for trend breaks and step in moments. Most of my wagers are on very rare events. A 8 column streak has an occurrence of about 3^6. Betting on such a chance has a very low risk.
In the casino I have no time to record the different chances of 4 tables. To play the real game is something else then study a random row. I do both. Study at home and play in the casino
 
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2017, 05:06:10 PM »
quote author=Mike

And it's only slightly less stupid to believe that trends have any value whatsoever in a random game like roulette. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

If that were true, trading in Index futures, other derivatives and the more complex options would be an act of sheer idiocy. Yet a vast set of mathematical tools/indicators are developed for analysis and prognosis of said instruments that from a temporal POV are no less "random", compared to roulette.

As much as a highly volatile Index futures are a daily representation of the prevailing market, an analysis and consequential prediction can be made as easy as the  bet selection variance curves in those images I showed DB steen.

The "randomness" you speak of in roulette is merely a concept chosen by simple-minded denizens like yourself,  being unable to take into account the strange attractors affecting said curve in any given direction. In roulette this being a mere binary win, or loss outcome,  compared to the more complex Financial market where you can make a killing both in up-trends and downtrends depending on whether you have buy or put options.

But alas, I am digressing..where was I?

Ah yes, it takes a singular stupidity... ;)
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2017, 05:23:06 PM »
DB Steen, those diagrams are depicting  what we at VRTech call, Omicron Curves. Omicron coming from the Greek letter "o" referring to the ring in said curve that depicts the win loss ratio for a bet-selection.

Being able to read a basic Omicron curve for any given bet-selection, be it Dozens, columns, streets is something all test pilots learn before they start using the more advanced platforms that deal with the wheel and its specific configuration.

There is no long term profit to be made playing the table permutations offered by the Casino. Only the wheel offers this possibility once you know how to approach it correctly. Yet when dealing with an extremely dynamic number generator like a roulette wheel, you need swift real time analysis, of which the ability to read the probability of your next bet selection is one. An Omicron Curve developing in real-time offers such a help once the right parameters are set. If anything my team has proven this for over two years now in thousands of tests.
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Re: It´s not about being the best.
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2017, 05:46:23 PM »
If that were true, trading in Index futures, other derivatives and the more complex options would be an act of sheer idiocy. Yet a vast set of mathematical tools/indicators are developed for analysis and prognosis of said instruments that from a temporal POV are no less "random", compared to roulette.

In the first place, the movement of these instruments isn't random, although there is certainly a random component to them. Secondly, many of those mathematical tools and indicators are indeed nonsense - just like yours is. Some people are blinded by the appearance of science and math; they don't realize that much of it is meaningless drivel.

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The "randomness" you speak of in roulette is merely a concept chosen by simple-minded denizens like yourself,  being unable to take into account the strange attractors affecting said curve in any given direction.

Strange attractors, LOL.  ;D Thomas, some people on this forum might fall for your BS, not me. Seen it all before many times, but it's always good for a laugh.
 

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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2017, 06:03:04 PM »
Now, i remember you. You are that loser and bulls***ter that used to hang around with REAL, offering nothing but platitudes, elementary math you tried to get accepted as applied math, and of course other nonsensical information which you believed presented your well informed understanding of roulette.

Sure, I don´t mind you calling my platforms, or opinions mere bulls***. I have 16 test pilots (Civil Engineers, Lawyers, Quants from Hedge funds, etc..) that have thrived quite well on them for over two years now and of course had a lot of fun using them in their free time as they share the same passion for the game as I do.

The thing about you, Mike. is there is always one or two of your type on every forum. They have nothing concrete to offer, but mere hyped up criticism of anything they fail to understand, much less create themselves.

You are quite irrelevant actually. Adding anything more would be rather superfluous.
 

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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2017, 07:54:38 PM »
Not to take sides, but I have yet to come up with a method of predicting POSITIVE trends (short-term) that isn't based on anything except variance; I would love to learn how to do so.  NEGATIVE trends are actually gaps and have observable and demonstrable statistical features.
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2017, 08:29:24 PM »
Reyth..  ball has only that much to jump most of the time..  obviously you gonna have positive trends there. Just learn how to determine where it's more likely start to jump.