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Best roulette players?
« on: November 08, 2017, 04:44:47 AM »
I was wondering if anyone has read any articles regarding the best roulette players. Local, worldwide, whatever. I dont mean some guy in 1791. RECENT players. I need a good read.

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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 07:47:03 AM »
If these players are " best ones" , you will never read about them or see documentary, unless after they retired.
   You can ocasionally see them in one of your local casino. It's these who win consistently . More consistent is their winning sessions - better they are.
   There is only one way to be best roulette player - it's know your limitations better then other players know theirs.
 
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 02:00:55 PM »
 "it's know your limitations better then other players know their" >> Yep, I watch the others very carefully. Knowing what does NOT work is just as, if not more important as knowing what does work well.

Roulette is a great game for reverse engineering, been saying that for years. Work BACKWARDS!!!

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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 02:09:38 PM »
This is a good read...
Norman Leigh: 13 against the bank
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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 02:15:57 PM »
I own it.
 

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 02:21:43 PM »
This?
 
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 03:10:41 PM »
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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 08:26:21 PM »

What signifies "the best players" is their ability to generate CONSISTENT profit from the table at any given session. In a landbased Casino the wins are always just below the radar in terms of size, but as final balance, it is always close to two or three times the stop loss i.e bankroll.In an online Casino trying to bet under the radar is useless as they have very sophisticated software that knows precisely how much you have won, or lost  (you receive a daily statement with all bets accounted for by size and precise time of the placed bet via a unique hash number.)

Most "players" visiting Casinos are mere "tourists" or OGDs - the latter refers to those suffering from Obsessive Gambling Disorder. You can easily spot them on the table by the way they make buy-ins and bet in a way doomed to crush the buy-in within a few spins or at most a couple of hours.

System players are also losers on the long run,  because they suffer from FEAR of LOSS more than the rationality of playing the wheel with a method that keeps the Win-Loss ratio on the positive side until they ve reached a set target equal or more than intial stop loss BR.

The last category of some very few individuals, which contrary to common belief that the Casinos fear them, are the professional players. They have basically taken the game to a level few ordinary gamblers can even imagine.You will never see them win very large sums on huge stacks of chips on various numbers.

On the contrary, these guys will basically place anything from 30-40 bets on a span of max 60-80 spins and have a return that well overlaps their initial buy-in and yet remain uninteresting in the eyes of the land-based Casino.

Why? Because they are but drop in a huge sea of incomes for said casinos filling their balance sheet by thousands upon thousands of the people I ve mentioned above that lack the capability to impose Bet discipline, planning, basic probability math, and of course even such a simple thing as staying sober, or engaging in social talks with a guy they ve never met before ,or would greet on the street, but at a table where they put a months income, they willingly take the risk to involve such a distraction just to prove a point ,or merely show off.

The best roulette players play both online and in land based Casinos. Like professional hit-men who take the time to know their weapon, their targets and even manufacture their own bullets, a Roulette pro of the highest caliber, makes his own platforms for gaming online, and of course, develops his own tools for betting in the land-based.What do they earn?

Well contrary to your one in a million lucky joe,  who stumbles into a casino and puts 2000€ on number 7 and wins 70K on said spin, and losing half before he leaves even more drunk before he arrived with his buddies, the Roulette pro makes at least a years basic income in one month, probably playing no more than 30-50 hours every month.

As the money is tax-free income according to the EU gaming tax laws (Read more about it here http://www.casasa.org.za/CASA_Newsletter_Issue_23.pdf) because the Casinos pay steep taxes of anything between 20-80% on stakes minus winnings,  depending on the country, the professional Roulette player has it rather cozy every year its time for income declaration.

He can have his money in his usual bank and not have a days care about any sudden visits by a local Tax agent who want to see the "books" ;)   That is for the business owner of small shops, or restaurants, where black money is always a way trying to survive in that jungle.

The professional gambler has no such worries, nor does he or she flaunt their profession in the open.Its a small club, some play in small groups, others remains single shadows, making no waves while collecting the monthly target return from a sea of Casinos and endless opportunities to earn a good tax-free buck.
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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 09:48:14 PM »
thomas,
Is this an original post?
If not, where is it from?
 

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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 10:35:35 PM »
I bet 10% of my bankroll that he is 100% the author from his own blood, sweat and tears.
 

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Re: Best roulette players?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 10:52:53 PM »
thomas,
Is this an original post?
If not, where is it from?

It is my reply to the OP. Do you have any problems with it? I also posted a copy of it in betselection.cc.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 11:02:51 PM »
 Nice replay,  Thomas. I really enjoyed to read it.
 
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 11:35:51 PM »
It was so well written I thought it was copied from somewhere...
No problem, though we would prefer exclusivity ;-)
 
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2017, 11:42:49 PM »
 Thomas , if you really copied it from somewhere, copy please more of these. :)
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2017, 05:47:42 AM »
In this Google-era, anything written online can be traced back to its source. The only place you will find what I wrote in that reply, should you do a search, will only be here and under my nick TheMagician over at betselection.cc
 
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