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USA politics affecting the markets
« on: September 19, 2017, 06:35:50 PM »
Well... if it wasn't USA,  there would be no fazhism or nazi Germany itself

How do you figure?  That's Europe's mess, not ours.

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, there would be no atomic bombardment on japon,

Again, had we not, then even more lives would have been lost by invading the mainland.  Again, we didn't need to enter that war, but we did to help save EU.

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there would be no islamic state,

So?
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 no weaponry race, no federal reserve to whom all country somehow in debt including USA, 


If we didn't have weapons the the rest of the world would have been SOL

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no climatic weapons provoking desasters like vulcanised eruptions, tzhunami.. ets... it looks like world would be much better place without USA at all.   

Climate weapons? Are you joking???  Perhaps you can give an example of a climate weapon and a weapon that's causing volcanic eruptions.  LOL.  (FYI...The US had catalytic converters on cars before most of EU did.)  However I'm proud of our president withdrawing or threatening to from the Paris accord. 
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 09:12:41 PM »
Nazi ideology coming from USA.  This where eugenics ideology was created. Ford and other American companies were directly sponsoring nazi, Google for what Germans used to equip with and what to eat during war..  if in doubt.
    Climatic weapon- haarp.  Or what you think it does? Study north pole ? Then why same things are in many locations far from north?
   Vulcanic eruptions , tzhunamies..ets can be easily provoked by it. Most stupid one was back there in japon, sending tsunami to atomic reactor ... entire world was on the line.
   That's why l say, no usa- no problems! .
  Who destabilised Irack,  Iran, livia - therorists sponsored by usa government,  now we got Arabs running to eu in crazy numbers... who's fault is that??? Is that " help" that usa provides to eu? EU would prefer USA to help themselves that way!!!
 
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 10:15:55 PM »
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Nazi ideology coming from USA.

Nonsense.  Nazi were socialists.  The USA is a republic.  Our current president Trump is about as far away from socialism as you can get.   Far more so than much of the EU.   The closest candidate that we've ever had to a socialist was Bernie Sanders.  He never even made it past the primary.  Much of the EU though has socialist principles.   

   
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Climatic weapon- haarp.  Or what you think it does? Study north pole ? Then why same things are in many locations far from north?

That's just conspiracy nonsense.  We don't have any climate weapons.
High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

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"HAARP" redirects here. For the live CD/DVD package by Muse named after the project, see HAARP (album). For the band, see The HAARP Machine. For the topic in general, see Ionospheric heater.High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program Research Station
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University of Alaska Fairbanks[/t]The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) was an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, the University of Alaska Fairbanks, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA),[1] designed and built by BAE Advanced Technologies (BAEAT).
Its purpose was to analyze the ionosphere and investigate the potential for developing ionospheric enhancement technology for radio communications and surveillance.[2] The HAARP program operated a major sub-arctic facility, named the HAARP Research Station, on an Air Force-owned site near Gakona, Alaska.
The most prominent instrument at the HAARP Station is the Ionospheric Research Instrument (IRI), a high-power radio frequency transmitter facility operating in the high frequency (HF) band. The IRI is used to temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere. Other instruments, such as a VHF and a UHF radar, a fluxgate magnetometer, a digisonde (an ionospheric sounding device), and an induction magnetometer, were used to study the physical processes that occur in the excited region.
Work on the HAARP Station began in 1993. The current working IRI was completed in 2007, and its prime contractor was BAE Systems Advanced Technologies.[1] As of 2008, HAARP had incurred around $250 million in tax-funded construction and operating costs. It was reported to be temporarily shut down in May 2013, awaiting a change of contractors. In May 2014, it was announced that the HAARP program would be permanently shut down later in the year.[3] Ownership of the facility and its equipment was transferred to the University of Alaska Fairbanks in mid-August 2015.[4]
HAARP is a target of conspiracy theorists, who claim that it was capable of "weaponizing" weather. Commentators and scientists say that advocates of this theory are "uninformed", as claims made fall well outside the abilities of the facility, if not the scope of natural science.[5][6]

   
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Vulcanic eruptions , tzhunamies..ets can be easily provoked by it. Most stupid one was back there in japon, sending tsunami to atomic reactor ... entire world was on the line.

Claiming that we're responsible for volcanic eruptions and the Japanese tsunami is even more absurd than claiming that we're using climate weapons.  ::)

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we got Arabs running to eu in crazy numbers... who's fault is that???

Your socialist governments, and the people.  You allow it to happen so that you appear progressive.  In reality it's a dumb move.  It's also one of the reason for the Brexit (many of the citizens finally got fed up).  For some reason many people fail to realize that the goal of these people is to take over the world through breeding.  It's not just the millitary.

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Is that " help" that usa provides to eu? EU would prefer USA to help themselves that way!!!

Our current president, Trump would like us to withdraw from the thankless free loading UN.  I think it's a good idea too.   Many of us are tired of solving the worlds problems and think that it's time the rest of the world showed up, and paid their fair share for a while.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 11:20:42 PM »
Real,l do not care how you call an empire, it's still an empire. If idea is to dominate the world by means of any war , be it financial, military, informational , political or even conceptual. .. l do call it imperialism.  USA is empire, independently if you understand it or not.
     I really doubt that there in USA they open any truth for a population, be it about resent hystory or older one. And l really doubt that they would bother to tell you personally if they have climatic weapons or not.
   Time for conspiracy theories is long past before you and l were born. We a living in times of results of conspiracy practice. Your CIA organised worldwide drugs cartels, your agencies are directly sponsoring world destabilisation, be it my country or on siria, libia, irak.. ets. It was your own people to put down world trade centre... all these things are not secret to anyone , besides probably yourself.
    I do not doubt at all that propaganda inside your country makes you guys look nice and needed in the world, but there is no country in this same world that wouldn't like to put you down. Only reasons that USA are still on the map is that all your land is a nucliar waste sepultory and there is one supervulcano in yelleston park. Your country literally is global size piece of s***t,  wich if touched , will poison life on entire planet.
   I do not speak about population, these are brainwashed, but country as a political entity ( in this case - empire).
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2017, 11:51:27 PM »
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If idea is to dominate the world by means of any war , be it financial, military, informational , political or even conceptual. .. l do call it imperialism.

If the US wanted to dominate the world, then they would...but it's not a goal. 

 
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It was your own people to put down world trade centre...


That's beyond stupid.
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there is one supervulcano in yelleston park. Your country literally is global size piece of s***t,  wich if touched , will poison life on entire planet.

We're in no danger of seeing it go anytime soon.  However, the super volcano in Italy is much closer to an eruption.  Contrary to conspiracy beliefs, a super volcano doesn't always produce a super eruption.  There are many intermediate and smaller eruptions that are more likely to happen than a complete and utter annihilation.
Read more science and a little less conspiracy.
   
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 12:50:29 AM »
The USA , together with the UK and France , decreed that Germany should “ Pay” for causing the 1914 -18 war. This destroyed the German economy and caused resentment in Germany and led to the rise of Nazism.
I think it  true that if the USA  had not entered the 1939-45 war then the U.K. - as well as France - would have been forced to sue for peace because of the incompetence of British General Staff in plans based on  First World War tactics.They rejected  Captain Liddell- Hart’s view that tank warfare was the new warfare. The French thought their Maginot Line was impenetrable but did not  envisage the Germans giving it a body- swerve and by-passing it .
Hitler wanted peace with the U.K. provided it kept out of Europe and could keep it’s Empire ..  Some of The Establishment in the U.K. did not want a war with Germany - hence the strange case of  Rudolph Hess   - Hitler’s Deputy -flying - apparently unseen- into Scotland . At the same time some members of the   U.K. Establishment  were meeting at an estate owned by the Duke of Hamilton . “ Rumour “ has it that a truce between the U.K. and Germany was the reason for Hess’s   visit  .
This may be the reason for Hitler deciding to invade Russia against his general’s advice. Army Generals don’t like fighting on two fronts  at he same time.  In his Mein Kampf Hitler showed his hatred of Russia and vowed to break it into little pieces . I think  the Russians are due  praise for their courage in fighting   the Nazis despite suffering immense losses .Praise where praise is due.
The point to be made in criticising  the dropping of nuclear weapons on civilian populations is that , yes, war is Hellish and dastardly deeds may sometime be needed but there was NO NEED to drop it on a large city. A remote area would suffice to make the point. Not only ONE bomb was dropped butTWO and for what ? To test which of two triggers was best ! No civilised society would do such a thing. And the Good Ol’ USA is talking about totally obliterating a civilian population which has the misfortune  to have a dictator in power !
“ Man’s inhumanity to Man makeCountless thousands mourn “
The USA  would not have interfered in  Europe if it had not been in it’s own interest . Nor will it interfere in other spheres unless it is in it’s own interest . Before Trump- during Trumps’ tenure - and  after Trump’s tenure.
Wars cause havoc but the USA seems all too ready to wage it - with or without  good reason.
The UK has good reason  to thank  the US . . At the end of the 1939-45 war it was a bankrupt country and the USA gave it a loan that was only fully repaid when Gordon Brown was the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It has amply repaid that by it's subservience to the interests of the USA. Chief Cheerleader for the illegal war in Iraq for instance.
 

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 12:54:12 AM »
As to Bitcoin. It is a bubble that will burst leaving latecomers nursing heavy losses.  After the Tulip  Bub bubble burst the poor sods at least had a Tulip bulb  for " comfort ".!
 

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2017, 12:59:59 AM »
Scepticus,

You're so right about Russia in the war.

Regarding Hess.  Back during Vietnam War, my friend was one of the guards in charge of guarding him in Berlin.  He was the one that actually took the picture of him  that was smuggled out and sold to Time/Life. 
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2017, 01:14:58 AM »
Real, with a bit of research you will get there very easy. Vulcano in your Yelleston  not a problem as long as  as north America not "go swimming ". Wich you guys enjoy false security from. How to send you guys to swim was invented right after 2nd world war. Probably you don't know, but north American tectonic plate can go under water very easy.... it was a reason why you guys didn't use atomic bombs on soviet union also. It's a public domain information from these times.
     You belive that world trade centre was down by Arabs whom camels used to f*** thru out all their hystory? And your agencies just allow them to do so? And third building collapsed just to make first 2 a company? And that something with plastic nose could make a hole in your pentagon? And that Bush went to another contry by mistake... logically speaking he should go back to Afghanistan,  ou.. l forgot, there is no petrol there....
    If in roulette you are specialist, in politics you are just TV watcher. And l got news for you... you are watching wrong TV.  Brain washing one...
     
 

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2017, 01:44:17 AM »
MrPerfect,

The US wasn't responsible for the tsunami in Japan.  That was Godzilla!  Duh!

The US also wasn't responsible for the World Trade center collapse, that was caused by the Aliens on Planet X.  Duh!



Regarding the tectonic plates, that's absurd because we all live on the same flat earth surrounded by the Ice wall.  The ground only moves because they want to create the illusion that the earth is round. Again, duh!

Any further questions?  Good!
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2017, 04:34:07 AM »
MrPerfect,

I think you'll enjoy reading this:

TRUMP: ‘THE PROBLEM IN VENEZUELA IS NOT THAT SOCIALISM HAS BEEN POORLY IMPLEMENTED’ BUT ‘FAITHFULLY IMPLEMENTED’
‘All people deserve a government that cares for their safety, their interests and their well-being, including their prosperity’

https://news.grabien.com/story-trump-problem-venezuela-not-socialism-has-been-poorly-implem

 

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2017, 06:18:40 AM »
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I think it  true that if the USA  had not entered the 1939-45 war then the U.K. - as well as France - would have been forced to sue for peace because of the incompetence of British General Staff in plans based on  First World War tactics.
You must think also about one possibility , that if the USA  had not entered the 1939-45 war then maybe  Russia will not stop at Berlin and what could be this way can be very different, from what was....
You not know , but mine family  from these times  tell all like one - German fascism was hundreeds times better, than Russian communism. Now Russian himself reccognise that in second world war period, they lost 45 millions peoples  when Germany max 10. Lets think about such numbers and what they mean....
 

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2017, 09:06:14 AM »
Russian communism ended with arrival of the Stalin,  as well a theorium of "permanent revolution" ets...
     If Russians would advance further from Berlin , it would be end of fashist regimen in Portugal and Spain. I lived in both countries, they would only thank.
    America entered 2 world war to protect their allies ( nazi) , grab whatever they can from what's left of second riech. That's how NASA was formed.
    I lived in last years of soviet union, people were more frendly then now. Education was open for everyone, medicine was sponsored by goverment and was worried to prevent desises instead of curing simptoms, accommodation was for free, light, water, petrol...ets was very affordable. People were much MORE HAPPY.
    About who is who in international politics...
 Resent situation in Ukraine show everything openly. USA invest 30 bln usd to destabilise Ukraine and replace official democratically selected government,  Openly nazi come to power as a result. Russia enters to save all it can , including Russian speaking population ( 95%). These who speak Ukrainian in Ukraine are minority, and even these do not know how to do it properly. It comes from ukrainian .
    Crimea is republic,  for these who do not know, it was included in Ukraine is autonomy, and voted with more then 90% to leave Ukraine and go to Russia.  So who is living by democracy standards and who just wistleblowing?
    About bitcoin.  It's only active in the world''s history  that achieved 5mln 400tsnd % up.  Pyramid?  OK,  and so? Potential of growth is virtually unlimited.  It's much less pyramid and bubble then usd.  Comments?
 

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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2017, 09:42:05 AM »
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People were much MORE HAPPY.
How i can be happy, when russians in lagers killed half mine family after occupattion ? Some peoples from mine country fighted against occupattion 1944-1970, but naturally win they cant. Russian government are very brave against weak countries and when they know that will not get back.
But i very want to see what will be if North Korea will start threaten with rockets to Moscow...

 

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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2017, 10:01:11 AM »
The USA is a strange place. According to polls more people believe in angels than man made global warming even though the country leads the world in scientific advancements. It likes to hold itself up as a beacon of democracy but it is actually an oligarchy. That's probably why its people voted for Trump and not Clinton.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 [nofollow]

As for 'land of the free' well it's not doing too badly but according to these stats it's heading down in that regard, just below the UK which is heading up. Maybe Trump can reverse this trend although from his behaviour so far I have my doubts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom#2016
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