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Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« on: September 22, 2017, 05:33:25 PM »

Has anyone Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too regular?
How much or how long Online/Land-Based Casino's will give the player a win before the ban will be given to the player?


 

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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 05:50:31 PM »
I have heard of people getting emails about "your winnings have exceeded the alotted limits" and they were prevented from continuing.

I have heard of another case where a particular casino has said "you are guilty of 'systematic play'" and refused to pay out.

It is very important that we play at casinos that we know have a proven track record of paying on winnings.

A general rule that I am familiar with is that the amounts of our withdrawals should be only a percentage of our original deposit amount at any one time.  The common strategy to accomplish this is to have multiple casinos that we play with, spreading our winnings & withdrawals over time.
 
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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 07:00:25 PM »
None of the Casinos I ve mentioned on my list has any such restrictions, nor have I ever had problems withdrawing my winnings from any of them.

Unibet for example is a huge sportsbetting company. Professional Gamblers betting on fotball (soccer) or any other popular sport easily win and withdraw sums in the tens to hundreds of thousands of euro every week without problems ( I know a few). Do you really think they would even blink if you won something around 20-30,000 euro a week on their roulette tables? It is almost hilarious this thought is promoted among forums but then I guess this concerns those small online webpages, providing nothing more than studio roulette or RNGs.

Why not call Unibet, Portomaso, Dublinbet or Ladbrokes (their roulette studios sucks though) and ask them for how much you can withdraw each week? They have excellent support lines. Give them a beep and ask to be connected to the Cashier. If you wonder if they would deny your withdrawal request of a couple of thousand euros, Unibet will probably think at first you are joking, or ask you to restate the question (their turnover is in the billions of Euro), or just plainly answer what they usually answer; we have no withdrawal limit, Sir. but we do ask for patience for withdrawals over 100,000€ as it might take up to 5 banking days for the transfer to your bank account.

If you would happen to win a couple of millions on their slots they will pay, as they are insured.

Some Casinos like for example Dublinbet have a deposit limit of around 2-3,000 euro per deposit, but once you become VIP they basically allow limitless deposits as you become a well known customer with a turnover they expect mathematically to regain over an extended time considering the odds they offer. 

The deposit restriction in these smaller Casinos are there because of certain money laundering laws that they have to obey considering their registered location. Usually Costa Rica, Curacao (Dutch colony) or similar.

That is all. My advice is start gambling a couple of thousand a month and withdraw your winnings on a weekly basis, so you learn the process of withdrawal request, and transfer to your bank account or bank card until you find yourself comfortable to play for larger sums.

Remember, all Casinos expect you to inform Tax authorities about your winnings. If you read their terms and conditions it is clearly stated there in black and white.

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2017, 07:31:33 PM by thomasleor »
 
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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2017, 10:43:25 PM »
All casinos online expect you to loose. If you start to win consistently, you will see what is it about. They will not cause you any problems if you are long time looser, but if you will become a winner, it will be funny.
    From these you mentioned, Dublin is crying loud if you withdraw more then 1k a day or 5k a week, uni bet will allow you to win up to 20k max, portomaso stoped to sell video feed all together to UK after my 15k win and l was waiting 5 weeks for money arrive after that.
 
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 05:02:08 AM »


MrP, I like some of your posts but I have to say that sometimes your comments are full of bulls..t that have very little, to nothing, to do with true reality.

The only thing I saw in your comment that was true and I smiled to myself while reading it was about Dublinbet. Yes, they are whining like a bunch of bitches whenever you try to withdraw anything above 2,000€ (not 1K as u mentioned), but they always transfer. I never keep my deposits for long time in any Casino that is registered outside Europe, despite size as a deposit merely takes minutes to execute,  so I withdraw my deposits and winnings regularly as the transfer period to my accounts (Neteller, or my bank account depending on Casino) are seldom over 3 days to Neteller and 5 days to my ordinary bank account.

You mentioned, Portomaso gave you problems for a withdrawal request of 15K??? Are you kidding? Who is your VIP contact at the management department? Leonora, Karen, Jonathan (a cocky little s***) or Stefano? For problems with smaller sums I recommend you get to know Stefano, for larger sums like 10K and above always talk with Ruth Camilleri (one of their excellent VIP Managers).

Only 20K from Unibet? Are you joking? If they couldn´t pay out larger sums than that they would have to file for the European bankruptcy equivalent of Chapter 11 within a week. Do you even know what a Sports betting company of their size that is close to the market giant Ladbrokes or the Bettson Group has as a yearly turnover? We talk billions here and millions of customers.

A rumor hitting the market (and of course verified) that they denied one of their customers when it came to sportsbetting, or Casino gaming for that matter with a crappy win payout of around 30-50K would send their shares at the stock-exchange  sink like Titanic. here is their current market share price and Market Cap (2.4 Billion USD).

http://markets.businessinsider.com/stock/unibet_group_2-quote
« Last Edit: September 23, 2017, 05:09:36 AM by thomasleor »
 
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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2017, 10:49:28 AM »
I agree i play on unibet and they always paid me without any discussion within 2 days (i'm talking about 4 figures withdrawal i never did 5 yet but i hope) and when i'm stopping playing on their platform they sent me many times 500 Euros money to have me back to their games.
Sometimes i'm trying to play their slot games even to mix my games cause i don't want they ban me, their platform is the one i prefer, very stable, never a disconection that i experienced with some other sites.

Jérôme
 
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 10:51:03 AM »


I know Unibet among many others ban sportbettors - but i don't know how they deal with casino games
This is known fact among them and i read many complaints at Swedish sport betting forum Sharp
Now i don't play daily online so my experience is limited and i don't know the all the facts behind the storys about gamblers who has been ban.

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 11:13:23 AM »
 Thomas, l do not say unibet do not pay, what l say they do not like long term winners. After some amount won they start to mess with your video feed, it's simply slown down , so you can't place  bets in time. 
    I had no vip status on portomaso,  it's still blocked to UK players ( some years already) . Should l post skrinshot what l see when l try to assess their website, or you simply will believe my "bs" words?
   
 

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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 11:52:00 AM »
Relax, MrP.

One in my team is from the UK and has had similar problems with their video-feed. Though I live in Sweden where we have 200 MB to 1 GB broadband in most big cities for private users, I too can experience net-congestion when dealing with both Portomaso and Unibet a few times every month.

I spoke with their staff and they just informed me that during certain days they have so many users logged on their servers simply cannot handle the traffic. I can buy that as I have a good friend who is a sysadmin in my town and explained that some of these companies  still use old equipment and software that is not upgraded with the latest server tech on the market. I can believe that about Portomaso in Malta, but still compared to Casinos like Dublinbet or Fairway (Costa Rica), they are very fast and good most of the time. Their Oracle proxy connection, suck though, which is pity because I truly love that Casino that has the most beautiful tables and girls online LOL ;D

Unibet has good servers but it seems many times the video feed problem is on the side of their Casinos they represent. Like for example, Casino International and Platinum Casino.

One situated in Zagreb Croatia and the other in Bucarest Romania. Even if the cameras they ve set up are good, the old cable architecture they use in their country is really not built for fast and massive traffic. Consequently when u use the platforms from Unibet sending from these locations u can have strange things sometimes like signal delay, video black outs for a few seconds and even pay out delay on a win to your account. Small things that contributes to irritate the player and which I call EI-effects (Enviromental Interference Effects).

If you do not have a cool head they contribute to increase the odds in the Casino´s favor because you will be prone to make an error that might cost you an important bet necessary to turn around a temporary negative variance on your bet selections

Yet compared with what else is available out there, these Casinos, and sport betting institutions, are still top of the line.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2017, 12:48:47 PM »
Thomas, l got 250 MG broadband myself...
   One thing is to speak with their support,other is really team up with someone from other country. When you ( in this case l) have s***ty connection and guy let's say from Canada on 15mb network has perfect video, it helps to see what really is going on.
   I often had to relay on many connections (accounts) and there was 7!!! of them in some point. It's just to make you realise how serious l was about online play. I even considered to make a soft to play different numbers from my predicted sector from different accounts. I'm system administrator myself ( between other things) , nessesity obligated,  and l can tell you with all l know up till now, they mess with video on the purpose.
 
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2017, 05:50:12 PM »
I agree i play on unibet and they always paid me without any discussion within 2 days (i'm talking about 4 figures withdrawal i never did 5 yet but i hope) and when i'm stopping playing on their platform they sent me many times 500 Euros money to have me back to their games.

Jérôme

Yes, Jerome they do this to me too. What I cannot tell them if I don´t play for a month and my email box is filled with some cash offerings begging me to return to their tables, is that I am using a monthly rotation system where I play at 4-5 Casinos a month. Whenever I go to the next Casino in the line, I first withdraw all funds from the latest I used and deposit them in the next, or if the withdrawal take more than 1 day, I deposit new money in the coming Casino and just wait for the money to credit my bank account from the old one.

This of course makes their VIP managers a bit nervous sometimes so I receive the most hilarious emails, but soon enough they become a bit irritating because they know I ll be with them again within a 4-5 weeks.

Yes, Unibet is a nice Casino, very professional and especially "caring" if you play with funds above average client deposits.

Yet, I am very weak for the Maltesian Casinos. I don´t know, Its something with them I just love. They combine Italian fashion style, with Portuguese refined manners and conversational beauty and a French strictness that I find irresistible.
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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2017, 06:28:22 PM »
You completely rotate 100% of your funds on a schedule. 

Do you think it also helps you keep a low profile in any way regarding your betting history? 

Are you just concerned about minimizing your exposure for account failure to one casino at a time? 

Is this because you can only trust a casino that will let you withdraw 100% of your earnings and you need to prove immediately that they will do so?

Why do you do it this way?

 

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2017, 07:08:05 PM »
Do you think it also helps you keep a low profile in any way regarding your betting history? 

Not much. Any assigned VIP Manager in a large Casino knows your betting history quite well. All online casinos have incredible records of their gamblers and players.  By withdrawing funds I get certain advantages of which  Cash offerings, faster support response (when their betting platforms create trouble during game), offerings of playing at their Land based Casino with payed hotel accomodation (usually 2-3 days), and of course a few other perks. But these things don´t interest me much, except the faster support of course.

Are you just concerned about minimizing your exposure for account failure to one casino at a time? 

In the past that was a reason, yes. I had accounts with UK Casinos and they all had horrible service and one of them I even got out my funds in time before it went belly up. Some of them are also really rude against their customers, especially big winners. Since then I avoid British Casinos like a plague, except Ladbrokes, they don´t care how much you win as they have intricate insurance packages with Lloyd´s Insurance and are also of course on the stock exchange.

The experiences I had with British casinos taught me that a Casino, however large, is never a bank with a savings protection limit. Hence always remove your funds when you don´t play there for a longer period than a week or two, especially in these financially volatile times where owners of Large Casinos also trades in extremely dangerous financial derivatives, and especially the synthetic custom tailored ones which I suspect will spell trouble in the market both in USA, Europe and Asia.


Is this because you can only trust a casino that will let you withdraw 100% of your earnings and you need to prove immediately that they will do so?

In the past when I encountered a new Casino I knew little about, except what I had been given via a recommendation from a  trustworthy friend,  sure, that was a good way to study the process from - winnings - request of withdrawal - time of transfer to assigned Bank account and so on. My average deposit was very low. Around 500-1,000€ in case they proved to be untrustworthy or full of tricks creating much EI effects during game and withdrawal process.

These days though I have a nice collection of five online Casinos that all have proven to be trustworthy and efficient in all these stages. No need to hunt for greener grass on the other side of the fence.

It has worked fine so far and I never like to be dependent on one source for my gaming.
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Re: Banned from Online/Land-Based Casino won too much or won too often
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2017, 08:38:34 PM »

European Economic Area Tax-free Online Casinos

European Economic Area European Union countries, Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. However, most of the tax-free online casinos are located in European gaming centers in Gibraltar, Cyprus or Malta. In addition, France, Italy, the United Kingdom and Estonia grant licenses, but apply only to residents of those countries

Choosing an operator with a license in the European Economic Area guarantees you the same tax-free casino winnings. Otherwise, you may have to pay a large amount of money if you happen to catch a big jackpot, for example.

No Tax-free And Tax Countries

Malta Gaming Authority Licensed casinos in these countries distribute tax-free profits:

Malta
Gibraltar

The profits of casinos in these countries are taxable income:

Man-Island (Isle of Man)
Kahnawake (Indian reservation) in Canada)
Antigua
Netherlands Antilles
Alderney
Northern Territory (Australia)
Costa Rica
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2017, 08:53:40 PM »
That is correct,  but as a client and receiver of winnings from these Casinos registered in Europe you still have to file your winnings in your income declaration. Failure to do so results in steep fines. The Casino itself as per stated in their terms and conditions are not under any obligation to provide a report to your Tax authority unless directly requested by said authority.