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A Holy Grail will use..

1. Flat Bet
5 (62.5%)
2. Money Management (progression)
2 (25%)
3. A combination of Flat Bet and Progression
1 (12.5%)

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Re: Money management
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2017, 08:32:52 PM »
Alex, lm looking to your graphs and lm confused as hell. .. wich one is the money axis and wich one represent spin number? For me your graphs look reverced.
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Decode the method and your search is over.

I am not selling anything im giving it on a silver plate
Save the thread as it may get deleted. And then please do not call again the AP players or system sellers experts as they are not.

Today it was the happiest day of their life for a lot of players in the world.

My gift for you all
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Re: Money management
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2017, 11:10:15 PM »
 Alex, l wanna thank you for your gift, but l can not be bothered to decode your method. What lm doing now gives me return at very least 50 times more on average... it's reasonable and humble estimation based on charts you posted.
    I would like to note some things dow. .. looks like your method do not do great drowdown , wich is nice, charts looks stable. If you find a way to flip axes without flipping numbers, it may become interesting. Try to find a way to achieve something similar to file attached.
 
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Re: Money management
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2017, 11:43:32 PM »
Alex, l wanna thank you for your gift, but l can not be bothered to decode your method. What lm doing now gives me return at very least 50 times more on average... it's reasonable and humble estimation based on charts you posted.
    I would like to note some things dow. .. looks like your method do not do great drowdown , wich is nice, charts looks stable. If you find a way to flip axes without flipping numbers, it may become interesting. Try to find a way to achieve something similar to file attached.

Hi Mr Perfect

Its 02:22 in the morning and can't rest. I really like your graph. Im glad there are people that have winning methods. The more, the merrier.
But what do they do when they have the HG? They keep it silenced. So who fills up the gap? All those unhearted systen seller and AP conputer scammers that try to take advantage on the inexperienced players.
I broke the silence because i dont give a crap about casinos and their pit bosses. They made millions on the peoples naivity(and greed)
My war is with them and the online system scammers and the roulette computer sellers.
To hell with that.
No one believes me when i showed them. Now they know. Now the scammers are silent.
My bet is a testament from me, a simple coder who got struck by luck and insight, to the world. To the players.
My message is this:
Flat betting works
On the long run
You have been lied to and manipulated and now the show is over. Truth prevails always.
NEVER LOSE HOPE

All my messages are true and come from my heart.
Just follow that thread and you too will win.

Mr perfect the graphs are flat bet. One can increase the bet size at any time.

I am a honest person looking to help you all out.
Thats my motivation!
Remember the reply i gave a couple of posts ago?

Why do we try to climb the Everest? Because it exists!

My motivation was never to get rich. I coded for free for 7 years now. I will cobtinue to do so.

I know it sounds outrageous what im saying now. Its outrageous for me to hear me saying it!! But i have done it! And you can too

That is my message. Please read again the thread/ method. When you will see it you will know all i said in the past was to help YOU see it as well

And to all system sellers, scammers and computer roulette experts out there, one message: your deceptive game is over.

The revolution of truth has started.

Alex

 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2017, 01:09:41 AM »
Alex, graph l posted was with flat bet as well.
   To tell the truth,  l just posted first graph l found on my phone, probably that simulation was made for 5 or 10 pound per number( table minimum sucks on some places), l think it was from my Portugal trip... doesn't matter.
    What do you have egainst computer sellers?
I can understand that some of them are in fact scam  ( forester from myroulette website definitely is), but there are others that produce reasonable products, some of wich l had a chance to try in action myself.  For example latest jafco device is very good, or newton project... l made roulette computer myself, wich l sell  for reasonably high price, l do not however sell it for not expirienced players, hope it will redeem me in your eyes and l wouldn't be included in your blacklist before you have a chance to try it yourself.
     I do not really know why all players not make their own roulette computers, with modern technology it's so easy!!! In fact anyone with school level of physics understanding should be able to make an algorithm for one... it's just newton motion physics, l used to study it at 5th or 6th year of school. People speak about crazy things, like deceleration of ball detection, selecting between multile samples and determination of drop points ( even casinos belive in this s***t)... what computers do is just mapping timings to the diamonds and simple math calculations. The less computer do - better it is. There are only 3 variables that really matter ( time , rotor speed, rotor decceleration), yet some people want damn microcontroller make decisions instead their brain!!!
    I will give you a nice idea how to test any roulette computer seller, make them predict without a computer. If they can not, they definitely have no idea how prediction itself is posible. Real player has to be able to predict with metronome only almoust as good as with roulette computer, if he is not able, he is not a roulette player. Obviously you need a good metronome for that, just give them mechanical one ;). Or you could do even better, make them to predict using count only, as l do often in my YouTube videos, this way you can see if they can adjust properly to the changes in their count consistency,  reasonable active player should be able to do it as well...
    Side note: l do not know a player who would be happy to bet to anything that doesn't return at least 2 chip profit per bet on average, l start to think about betting when it offers at least 4 chip return per spin. These who say otherwise alarm my reasonability. 
   
 
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Re: Money management
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2017, 04:09:46 AM »
Alex, graph l posted was with flat bet as well.
   To tell the truth,  l just posted first graph l found on my phone, probably that simulation was made for 5 or 10 pound per number( table minimum sucks on some places), l think it was from my Portugal trip... doesn't matter.
    What do you have egainst computer sellers?
I can understand that some of them are in fact scam  ( forester from myroulette website definitely is), but there are others that produce reasonable products, some of wich l had a chance to try in action myself.  For example latest jafco device is very good, or newton project... l made roulette computer myself, wich l sell  for reasonably high price, l do not however sell it for not expirienced players, hope it will redeem me in your eyes and l wouldn't be included in your blacklist before you have a chance to try it yourself.
     I do not really know why all players not make their own roulette computers, with modern technology it's so easy!!! In fact anyone with school level of physics understanding should be able to make an algorithm for one... it's just newton motion physics, l used to study it at 5th or 6th year of school. People speak about crazy things, like deceleration of ball detection, selecting between multile samples and determination of drop points ( even casinos belive in this s***t)... what computers do is just mapping timings to the diamonds and simple math calculations. The less computer do - better it is. There are only 3 variables that really matter ( time , rotor speed, rotor decceleration), yet some people want damn microcontroller make decisions instead their brain!!!
    I will give you a nice idea how to test any roulette computer seller, make them predict without a computer. If they can not, they definitely have no idea how prediction itself is posible. Real player has to be able to predict with metronome only almoust as good as with roulette computer, if he is not able, he is not a roulette player. Obviously you need a good metronome for that, just give them mechanical one ;) . Or you could do even better, make them to predict using count only, as l do often in my YouTube videos, this way you can see if they can adjust properly to the changes in their count consistency,  reasonable active player should be able to do it as well...
    Side note: l do not know a player who would be happy to bet to anything that doesn't return at least 2 chip profit per bet on average, l start to think about betting when it offers at least 4 chip return per spin. These who say otherwise alarm my reasonability. 


Mr. Perfect,

I am a man of simple words.  I read a lot and prefer to speak little. But my heart will always be  beating for the poor, and chance less, the underdogs.  Up until 3 days ago, when i had discovered the system by chance, i would have been silenced by the AP players, the "experts" and the gurus.
The ones you see everywhere in the online (and offline) selling computer systems for 80,000 dollars or more. 
The ones that know how to bulls*** people and get their money.
The system sellers that scam people of their hard earn money.
What really got me going was their arrogance and lack of manners. The "i know it all" and the "you know nothing". But that comes with education and how they were raised by their parents.
Funny thing, looking back is that i can see the Tons of useless junk, and pages full of crap from the past.
Just google variance and enter a random page.
Enter any forum and see it. Its out there. Same fatalist attitude. Same thing over and over again.
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I have been on the other side of winning, and anyone can be. Flat betting, without any roulette computers. Without magic progression.  Without IFS. 1000%certain. Without needing complicated calculations , An 100% percent playable system FREE for everyone.

I see the silence after yesterday`s storm.
It shook the world. And will continue to do so. My inbox is full on my gmail account with thank you emails.

As a side note i am not against people designing computers for THEIR personal use and profit only. I am on the mad scientists camp myself. But scammers i cannot stand.

Where are all of the gurus and AP advocates now? Their world is now shattered. I dare them to say otherwise! Please, stay in line.

I came to share the good news. After you find your solution, please use what you have responsible. Be a good person, and change the world for the better.

Alex
 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2017, 04:44:34 AM »
Are you still speaking about same system to wait 3 repeaters in 37 spins? You previously mentioned need for a computer, now you say it's not needed. Or l missed something? 
 
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Re: Money management
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2017, 04:56:54 AM »
Probash,

You have no holy grail.  It's likely just one of the following:

1. You tested an insignificant  sample or are curve fitting.
2. You used a simulator or programs with bugs in it.
3. You may really suck at math.
4. You have a poor grasp on logic, commonsense and reality.
5. You're setting up a con by playing the secret squirrel game.

After all, why do you believe that all of the experts, mathematicians and history are wrong but that you are correct with your absurd claim?
 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2017, 05:14:23 AM »
Real,

What is a significant sample for you
Will 15 million spins suffice for you?
How about 25 million spins?

You are throwing garbage again. But have no worries, people have seen the light.
You are insignificant a small part of a bigger plan.

Guess what i don`t need your approval, Real. Nor do the rest of people that have seen it.

Alex
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Re: Money management
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2017, 05:15:34 AM »
Are you still speaking about same system to wait 3 repeaters in 37 spins? You previously mentioned need for a computer, now you say it's not needed. Or l missed something?

Mr Perfect, read the whole thread. The method is there in front of you. And it wins.

Alex
 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2017, 05:31:35 AM »

1. You tested an insignificant  sample or are curve fitting.
2. You used a simulator or programs with bugs in it.
3. You may really suck at math.
4. You have a poor grasp on logic, commonsense and reality.
5. You're setting up a con by playing the secret squirrel game.

After all, why do you believe that all of the experts, mathematicians and history are wrong but that you are correct with your absurd claim?

Hahaha, it just struck me, is that all you can come up with?
I`ve heard this music everywhere! Its boring already! Change the melody!
Look at it, all, the "king of truth" in his full splendor!
I could say everything you say about YOUR system, yet i am civilized and before i speak i test it.
I am not selling anything, all my work in the past and the future has been about helping others succeed!
Hell, i can make you believe! Its not that hard really. Just connect the dots.

Alex
 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2017, 05:55:23 AM »
All i can recommend now is to save the thread for offline study. It might be deleted soon by the site owner that is selling roulette systems for a living (steve).

Listen, i know it sounds unbelievable.... that`s the price of an extraordinary discovery.

I am calling out all testers on this forum and anywhere to proof me wrong.

Those that have found it, will know. Those that are still struggling finding it, read careful the posts. You will eventually get it.

I am not selling anything, i win nothing from sharing this, really, its a rare gift. Treasure it well.

Alex.

 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2017, 06:18:12 AM »
Probash,
This forum is not owned by Steve and none sells systems for a living here.
What you are doing here has been done in roulette forums from the beginning of time: someone hints and claims, hints and claims that he has beaten roulette and search for fish that will ask for his system in PM and then he tries to take advantage of them. This kind of behaviour is clearly prohibited in our forum rules. But I don't delete your posts, because they are a great example what people should avoid falling for.

But no more "hinting and claiming and connecting the dots" from now on.
I was a way from the forum for some time and the BS meter has gone into the red area.
Now I'm back and the BS and pointless arguments and "I'm smarter than you" debates will be kicked out.
Have a nice day.
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Re: Money management
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2017, 06:32:51 AM »
DO NOT QUOTE PREVIOUS POSTS

Kav, i understand your point. You can delete the posts if you want.
I do think that we should take a look and draw our own conclusions.
Buddha used to say: do not believe your teacher but test it for yourself. and then judge for yourself.
All i wanted is to give people a ray of hope. I win nothing from this, believe me, im not richer than i was 4 days ago.

Sincerely yours,
Alex
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Re: Money management
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2017, 07:00:16 AM »
...Up until 3 days ago, when i had discovered the system by chance, i would have been silenced by the AP players, the "experts" and the gurus...

Oh dear, that does not forebode well.
 

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Re: Money management
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2017, 02:14:12 PM »
Alex, if it's a freeby as you say, noone stops you from posting rulls for your system straight forward.  You are a coder, right? I can code a bit myself... if it's excel , c , c++ l will understand it.
    I can't speak for everyone here,but l myself, is definetly not a fellow who is interested to wise up casinos. Even if you wanna sell your hg, it's OK , as long as it works.
   Look l really have no much free time, it's all devided between family, roulette and my multiple jobs, but in your case, l offer few hours l would keep for myself this week to fully test your approach... in your disposal now my full library of spin results and my humble habilities of coder who did never worked for free.