### Author Topic: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS  (Read 6646 times)

#### Jesper

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2015, 05:29:57 PM »
Dear Real!

There  are Winners in roulette, do not claim AP. Most AP as System do not work "in long run".

Still some win, even using voodoo" That's is randon game!

You are Huston or more as paste the -EV which you claim to overcome, if you do you are just lucky, and your analyses do not help, as systems.

I claim my large win was luck""""

#### BlueAngel

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2015, 05:33:06 PM »
What RNG can not is to give AP an edge!  I do belive a "real Wheel" is simular according to random-
REAL use math, and I do not say he is wrong. He do looks over the variance some win a lot. You are not domed . some win some lose. AP from REAL or other alias is A JOKE UNTIL HE CAN SHOW.
Mr real is more a parrot than a AP player.

I did 100000 Euro using luck and GF, not AP!

Actually for me is greater joke someone who claims he won 100000 by betting cents!! I have never heard that before!
Perhaps you confused Euros and Swedish Coronas exchange rates!
After all if for you (Jesper) all come down to luck and you are so lucky,why don't you buy some lottery tickets,you could win millions!

#### Jesper

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2015, 05:57:27 PM »
This may be the last time I speak to you. Pennies is fractions of Pounds,  That means I use pennies as fractions. Often it is 1o Sterling on the carpet. I do Win!  Main reason is LUCK and the second is carefully use it.

I have been on a quite a few forums, and roulette forums use to be full of scams, programmers and others which try to make Money from other ways and not play!  They play on papers as they are broke.

I have left a few  fora due to aggressive members using the forum for other reasons than discuss the play.

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2015, 02:21:55 PM »
Winning a lot is of coerce  luck, it can be done using a long shot.  There is players want stay in the game and then work for break even. Over try to use the chance to get a decent hit, and may be fewer spins. We can grind, normally do not get a win. A win for me is an amount which make a change if only for now.  I see two ways, a long shot or grind using positive bold progression.

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2015, 02:15:04 PM »
What RNG can not is to give AP an edge!  I do belive a "real Wheel" is simular according to random-
REAL use math, and I do not say he is wrong. He do looks over the variance some win a lot. You are not domed . some win some lose. AP from REAL or other alias is A JOKE UNTIL HE CAN SHOW.
Mr real is more a parrot than a AP player.

I did 100000 Euro using luck and GF, not AP!

You must be one lucky, lucky bustard! Not trying to insult you or injecting additional hate to this forum, but 100K while wagering pennies is fairy tale in which only the unexperienced might believe.

If you said 100 or 1000 then fine but 100K, that is way too much.

Have a nice day everyone.
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#### Jesper

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2015, 09:10:48 PM »
Pennies are fractions betting, It may be 100 Euro a spin, until  A WIN.  I win from start of pennies can make good!

Today I got 2000 Euro plus, risking 100 (brave betting win or lose)

I may got to be brave from drinking tonight.  Bold short try win.  Slow and many bets is lose.

Not skill, which is not in the game, that's only or less or more LUCK!

Yaaa try all and you can win a lot and lose, Do not use more than  you can handle!!! EASY!

Betting win a few (negative progression) Win 10 small and lose few Heavy!

Parlay and if it works, it will change  all!

Excuse!! my language is not native English, but a bit drunk, and got a decent win is noy bad!

good progression

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2015, 09:24:39 PM »
Pennies are fractions betting, It may be 100 Euro a spin, until  A WIN.  I win from start of pennies can make good!

Today I got 2000 Euro plus, risking 100 (brave betting win or lose)

I may got to be brave from drinking tonight.  Bold short try win.  Slow and many bets is lose.

Not skill, which is not in the game, that's only or less or more LUCK!

Yaaa try all and you can win a lot and lose, Do not use more than  you can handle!!! EASY!

Betting win a few (negative progression) Win 10 small and lose few Heavy!

Parlay and if it works, it will change  all!

Excuse!! my language is not native English, but a bit drunk, and got a decent win is noy bad!

good progression

Let's all drink to this magnificent moment!
Let's all raise our cups to the night sky and cry out VICTORY!!
Let the peanus become thousands and the thousands millions,let it be...!!!
Let's Martingale till Nightingale sing,let's double it up like there is not tomorrow!!
All together with uniform voice "HAIL TO THE ALE"!
All together as 1,till the morning comes...
All together all night,till the morning light!

#### GameNeverOver

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2015, 10:09:02 PM »
Pennies are fractions betting, It may be 100 Euro a spin, until  A WIN.  I win from start of pennies can make good!

Today I got 2000 Euro plus, risking 100 (brave betting win or lose)

I may got to be brave from drinking tonight.  Bold short try win.  Slow and many bets is lose.

Not skill, which is not in the game, that's only or less or more LUCK!

Yaaa try all and you can win a lot and lose, Do not use more than  you can handle!!! EASY!

Betting win a few (negative progression) Win 10 small and lose few Heavy!

Parlay and if it works, it will change  all!

Excuse!! my language is not native English, but a bit drunk, and got a decent win is noy bad!

good progression

Let's all drink to this magnificent moment!
Let's all raise our cups to the night sky and cry out VICTORY!!
Let the peanus become thousands and the thousands millions,let it be...!!!
Let's Martingale till Nightingale sing,let's double it up like there is not tomorrow!!
All together with uniform voice "HAIL TO THE ALE"!
All together as 1,till the morning comes...
All together all night,till the morning light!

CHEERS JESPER AND BLUEANGEL! )

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##### Lots Of Players Have Found This?
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2015, 03:39:23 AM »
Quote from: =GNO=
There is plenty of evidence out there about players that are constant winners in B&M casinos but are always losing while playing online (logically it should be otherway: there are lots of distractions in B&M casinos and when you are playing online you are playing from the comfort of your home)..

#### Jesper

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##### Re: RNG & ROULETTE WHEELS
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2015, 10:32:23 AM »
We can win and we can lose! That just the gambling World!

Every time we try to estimate our chances winning
We use to come up with a loss according to the odds.

The question is does it matter at all which way we
bet?

Long tests seems to show, it does not. Play one number
for very long or use random choice, show no difference.

How about a session, which is far from the long run.
Do it help cutting the longer play into shorter, and
look  at it as completely independent events.
The funny is all math says we can not, and still
it is said every spin is independent.

For all practical use, I think we must see first
every spin is unpredictable, a stream of spins has
some properties. We are not able to know much from it
before we start the play, or even during. That
is most of the time an Apophenian conclusion

One thing we can notice is all the numbers fall near at the same frequents
This is almost sure for long series, but almost sure it will be uneven
In a shorter series. "Just the best guess"!

We can using progressions somewhat increase the chance for a win, at a
price it may be a heavy loss at a unknown future.

When are we winning? When we stop the game for a day, we use to stop on a decent plus if possible.
Is the end of a month or year we should use?

We can get a double bankroll with about 48% probability, just throw it all on an EC.
Knowing that, it is of no use (other than the fun) to play any method which do not
have a better chance than a spin on one EC doubling the bank.

I am using bolder positive progressions, and do have better than 50% double the bankroll.
I can not tell why, it is probably just a fluke.

I have "countless" of spins used one straight up, starting with the minimum bet, which is 1 or 5 cents, depending of table.
Bold positive progression.
Most of the time it is not any larger downdraw, but it happens, and have returned to plus at the end.

My worse case was 42 Euro left of 1067, and went to 2000 in a few spins (see pic). This is a kind of proof, "it will not work in the long run"
I was lucky, because I do not think I should be possible or at least near impossible to handle a losing streak at that stage.
Before that heavy play my plus was just 4 Euros and a few short sessions. The (GF) thinking is if a number sleeps long
It may hit more often later, and we keep the bet until a hit. It may be true, but for which sample length? I have seen 1000 plus sleep of a number, I was lucky
It was 3 cent a bet at that stage, and yes it start hitting.

Another play which is on EC, I use positive progressions, the length is according to the balance, I use a grand martingale on a win.
This has up to now never bust. It can take (painful) long time and never wins much. I play it on zero wheel as a session on nozero has time limit.
So despite the unfair odds, it has up to now at the end been a winning streak to recover the worse downdrawn.
The casino allows 1 to 200000 on an EC. I have had near 5000 as the highest recover bet just once.
It needs 1000:s of spins without a winning streak of 6-8 spins, to get a downdrown, hard to recover.

A positive progression do not use "the best guess", it use a statistical occurrence of rather rare situations, as
we can "expect" a run in time.

I think I can still make some good winnings, but it may if I am not careful occur a RFH witch will be expency.

"Winning methods" use to have this properties, some wins for years, and ends terrible. Even experienced players use to
blame the casino as "rigged" then. One famous profile in many roulettfora won "How much he want" but accused on a German
Forum the casino was "rigged", "as 90 sleeps on a DS was impossible" (I have seen it). The method was similar to mine, expect a negative
progression was used.

We can win if we include, a time in future we just not care or not live long to see.

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