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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #150 on: March 17, 2017, 12:26:09 AM »
So you guys are using double streets now? Im confused!
 
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #151 on: March 17, 2017, 12:50:52 AM »
You are not the only one confused. I believe that in long threads like this one or Talos_dump it is necessary from time to time to have a "recap post" where the method is explained in a detailed yet easy to understand way. Otherwise only the hardcore members can follow what is being said.
 
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #152 on: March 17, 2017, 01:31:34 AM »
Here is the post where the modification is implemented by the author:

http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=1406.msg20982#msg20982

and the two posts below it.
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #153 on: March 17, 2017, 01:49:08 AM »
Thanks I see it now. No matter how high we are in the progression we drop all the way down to 2? Or down 2 for each?
 
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #154 on: March 17, 2017, 01:51:47 AM »
Succesive loss distribution creator is attached.



Here we can see that there is no third full failure in a row with this betting scheme (the first output is a 0 loss event).  Two full failures in a row only occur 12 times out of 16M which is 1 in 1.33M -- certainly a once in a lifetime event.

This should be a big help in designing a recovery system as after all losses are counted, we only need a resulting bankroll that will allow us to recoup 2 full successive losses.

So we need to calculate our debt after 12 successive misses on Level 1 to start designing the recovery tiers.

Thanks I see it now. No matter how high we are in the progression we drop all the way down to 2? Or down 2 for each?

Sorry, I don't get your question.  I think you might be referring to if we have a loss and we start again but at 2 units?  Ya, we would stay at that level until we regain profit, and all chips are at the same level.
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #155 on: March 17, 2017, 02:33:09 AM »
Ive read the 3 posts recommended, however the back and forth of ideas after that seems to have morphed to an upgraded better system. I just cant figure it out. The way im understanding it keeps dropping my bankroll.
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #156 on: March 17, 2017, 02:52:18 AM »
I am not sure that on the BET SELECTION there has been any sort of consensus but on the progression & recovery, it is the following:

1) Bet 1 unit on 2 corners & 2 splits in two different DS
2) 1st miss, raise +1 on the corners
3) 2nd miss, raise +1 on the splits
4) Any further miss, start over with #2 until a total of 12 successive misses
5) If the hit does not bring a profit (or if 12 successive misses), perform #1 but start with 2 units instead of 1 unit.

POSSIBLE DIVERGENCE: The first recovery unit size MAY still be 1 here (2,3,4 etc.), I am not sure what Eddy thinks.  According to the "Inside D'Alembert Guy", the unit size should be two (2,4,6 etc.).
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #157 on: March 17, 2017, 05:24:12 AM »
Sorry guys if you are a bit confused. I can understand that. when i'm fully awake 6.22am here in Holland, i will recap everything in a new post. Call it my '4 Wonders' V2.0. I'm sure that everything will be clear.

 
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #158 on: March 17, 2017, 06:18:30 PM »
Cool. Make sure to post the link to your new thread here when it's ready!
 

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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #159 on: March 17, 2017, 06:31:56 PM »

1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-3-3-3
4-4-5-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-14-16-18
20-22-25-28-32-36-40-45-51-57-64-72-81-91

The loss would be quite big at 600+ units using real money. Another idea would be to extend the progression to 20 spins per level.

Im still talking about the original 4 Wonders here :) I still need to figure out a 20x spin progression with 3 levels as that would be pretty much infallible. But for now I am testing out my 14x spin with the three level system mentioned in my previous post above. So far so good. I have 500 of my own spins after 2nd trigger without going all three levels. I have already tested 500 out on the first 10K spin download in the link below, now moving on to the next 500 from DoublinBet spins. I will do another 500 on BetVoyager and then a final 500 with the RNG data.

http://www.roulette30.com/2014/11/free-spins-download.html

A 20x progression with 3 levels would be awesome, but i think 16x progression with 3 levels would be a bit faster profit yet still pretty close to infallible.
 

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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #160 on: March 17, 2017, 06:53:40 PM »
This should help you a lot:

http://www.loothog.com/Systems/prog.html
 
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Re: Introduction & my "4 Wonders" System v1.0
« Reply #161 on: March 17, 2017, 11:30:27 PM »
Yeah thats what Ive always used, but I need to somehow stretch my 14x progression to 16x or even 20x. Do I just add in a couple numbers?

1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3
would become...
1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3

Ideally I would want to show some profit every step. So far from all my research, 20x progression with 3 levels would be infallible, 16x most likely. My 14x progression is working out great, however there have been a couple close calls.
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