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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2017, 04:55:36 PM »
Mr perfect, I can see your point, but, I think sput, is being completely responsible in his advancement toward a higher level of play. We all must feed our heads at a rate that is satisfying to our learning curve. I for one applaud his decision.
He very clearly stated why he is moving towards this and I see no haste. At some point we all out grow out current situation and need to move up!     Respectfully, the juice

Well, juice, I agree with Mr. Perfect here .
I think sputnik  is on a learning  curve but I think he needs to take a step back and think carefully before spending any more money on " tuition". Hopefully, he is not here to promote this 1,000Euros tuition.
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2017, 05:18:44 PM »
Mr perfect, I can see your point, but, I think sput, is being completely responsible in his advancement toward a higher level of play. We all must feed our heads at a rate that is satisfying to our learning curve. I for one applaud his decision.
He very clearly stated why he is moving towards this and I see no haste. At some point we all out grow out current situation and need to move up!     Respectfully, the juice

Well, juice, I agree with Mr. Perfect here .
I think sputnik  is on a learning  curve but I think he needs to take a step back and think carefully before spending any more money on " tuition". Hopefully, he is not here to promote this 1,000Euros tuition.

No i am not here to promote this - but if some one ask using private message i don't mind telling.
I would never promote anything - i just take the steps i need to take to get more and deeper education with others that think like me.
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2017, 05:22:05 PM »
Scept, I would agree with you on being cautious, but he is, or would appear by his track record to be, a solid, upstanding contributer to the forum. I, as a newbie to partisipating, can see being skeptical towards some who are on this site, and not believing a thing they have to say. But I see him as genuine and will take my chances here on supporting his point of view. My style of play is similar to his, so I may be a bit bias, but I can see why he would feel the way he does. When you face an impass in your own game and find a potential way of growth, it is hard to lay off, but I am sure he will do his homework and in the long run, it may help us all. I just do not want to think he is trying to sell anything!
The old credo, trust everybody until they give you a reason not too ....
                               As always, with respect, juice

 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2017, 05:45:11 PM »
Mr perfect, I can see your point, but, I think sput, is being completely responsible in his advancement toward a higher level of play. We all must feed our heads at a rate that is satisfying to our learning curve. I for one applaud his decision.
He very clearly stated why he is moving towards this and I see no haste. At some point we all out grow out current situation and need to move up!     Respectfully, the juice
Resently a friend of mine was scammed by something similar.  I felt sad l didnt worn him ...
 
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2017, 05:57:51 PM »

Well testing four weeks for 50 EUR does not make me a victim for a scam - i am free and can decide if i want to continue to pay 50 EUR for four weeks more and continue to do so for a hole year - is up to me and no one can force me to pay.

But i admit that when some one want payment for a hole year in advance - you might ask around and see if you can get some information that way.
Now if you know that some one has a valid and good reputation or at least has not seen much of negative comments - then i personal invest 1000 EUR with expectation to get some value for my money.

I would not recommend any one do this with less then six number bankroll or at least half that money.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2017, 05:59:12 PM »
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The knowledge and quality is from daily playing professionals who win.
Ahem!
Why would a pro pay to post on a forum?
What kind of pros? The magic system pros or an advantage play pros? All eager to share their methods?
Man this sounds as cheesy as it gets and it smells like a scam from a mile away.
Hope you are covered by a money back method/guarantee (credit card, paypal or something)

Well testing four weeks for 50 EUR does not make me a victim for a scam - i am free and can decide if i want to continue to pay 50 EUR for four weeks more and continue to do so for a hole year - is up to me and no one can force me to pay.
It makes you a victim of a $50 scam. Don't get me wrong Sputnik, but I'm surprised that someone with your vast knowledge and experience would fall for claims of "pro gamblers sharing their secrets" and such BS.
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2017, 06:12:09 PM »
Well you get on the wrong foot - there is no professional who tell about there personal play - the discussion is about the method you get when you join and more experience players who live where the action is 24/7 contribute and the discussion goes on.

Every one who has move on to such level that they don't need the forum board any more don't need to continue and no one force any on to do so.
But still i can see more experience members then my self regarding the methods that are the core of the hole methodology or principals or philosophical.

So point is not taken and i have only start to read the basic and can see that is exactly what i been looking for as i been on the same path my self before i join and now i can meet and talk to other who tackle EC in the same way.

There is no such thing as the holy grail - it is a concept that i been preaching for a long time now with no reaction from other members - so that is one of the reason i want to surround my self with others who think like me.

That is why it does not make me a victim - i considering the material valid and worth at least 50 EUR
Then is up to you self with what speed you study and learn the concept and move to another level of understanding.
So after four weeks you are free to skip the hole thing or continue.

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2017, 06:35:41 PM »
Isn't the seed that started this, more about positive progression in terms of applying it to very high percentage hit rate on the e.c.'s?? I see no fault in getting others opinions on this topic. Sputnik is merely willing to pay to further his education. If he researches before he spends, and it gives him the missing pieces to his game, that would be worth it, no?
As I see it, TIME is MONEY, and we all SPEND plenty of TIME here, picking each others brains~
IT seems like when someone posts a personal goal on a public forum, he should COMPARE it to placing a BET on the roulette game and intending to play a full MARTY, cause it seems that you are always trying to dig yourself out of a hole just to DEFEND your point! He has clearly stated that he, to spite his best efforts, has tried to SPARK UP, a topic on positive progressions, and feels that the depth of response that he got in return has been unsatisfying to him....We all know his intentions are positive, so why not support his direction?? We ALL DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT....WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. IT IS ABOUT WINNING!!!!! NOT THE BEAT DOWN~
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2017, 06:55:25 PM »
Do business professionals belong to private social clubs where they share knowledge, contacts & resources?  Yes.

Are pay to view forums a known scam?  Yes.

So, quite the mixed bag & dangerous to anyone reading of this who stumbles in the wrong direction.

I wish you the best Sputnik.  You have been a very strong influence in how I play and think, even though you are often cryptic about your methods. :)
 
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2017, 03:55:51 PM »
several years ago I had a roulette fund on a Dutch site. The starting capital was 1000 euro. I took the risk for 500 and 10 participants each 50 euro. I played on a online casino at an announced time. The participants could look on my computer how I played I played 3 sessions of about 100 spins a week. The results I publiced every time on the forum. After 2 month I closed the fund with a profit of 100%. The goal was to show my strategy for education. Google for "roulette fonds""
 
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2017, 04:49:05 PM »
Well, if Sputnik are a victim of a scam, then so am i.
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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2017, 03:26:53 AM »
The danger of a positive progression is that your largest bet is the  one that loses .

the same can be said about the negative progressions.
 

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Re: Crystal Ball
« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2017, 07:31:13 PM »
Agreed BA
Which is why I don't do progressions.
An added thought. If one of kav's heroes. Nick Taleb did play roulette I think he would choose a positive progression because he bets FAT fat tails  !
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