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Roulette Forum => Gambling Philosophy => Topic started by: Reyth on May 10, 2015, 02:08:41 AM

Title: Winning Stress
Post by: Reyth on May 10, 2015, 02:08:41 AM
I am a veteran of gaming but a relative newbie (I've won at THE poker) to real money gambling.  I have been winning in roulette for the last 24 hours.  I play short sessions lasting maybe 10-20 minutes.  What I have noticed is a certain "emotional stress" that is associated with two things:

1) Winning money -- more money than I make at my job
2) Risking money -- this seems to be a separate stress but it uses the same "emotional sector" as winning money

It feels like I am descending underwater and the longer I play the more the pressure builds.  I can feel it in my neck and shoulders and I even stressed out my mouse hand large middle knuckle.

It feels like the more money I win, the more stress I feel.  It prompts me to want to play short sessions so I can like rest.

I feel stress when playing games of high competition like chess but this stress has an added layer of "depth" to where it seems like if I didn't focus my mind, I just wouldn't be able to properly function.

I don't know if anyone will be able to relate to what I am feeling or have any suggestions; does this go away after awhile so I can play longer sessions?

LOL.  I am laughing at how silly this sounds but once again, I am serious here...
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: BlueAngel on May 10, 2015, 07:13:35 AM
It's normal to feel like this,I can't answer with certainty about if this anxiety could disappear after some time or not because for each person works in different way...for some could gradually disappear,while for others could be always like their first time.
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Reyth on May 13, 2015, 06:04:59 PM
Today is the first day where I had a handle on this stress and it was because I used something called "sensory loading". 

Normally I just focus on the system I am using and hit "spin" etc.  This is what lays me open to experiencing the emotional stress but today I used a wheel tracker software and entered the spins into it while implementing my system so that it formed a "third tier" of attention.  This kept the emotional stress in the background and allowed me to play a much longer session.

Something wierd happened while I was closing in on 40 units of straight profit:

Earlier in the day yesterday, I had occasion to speak with Casino Staff on the phone and as I was betting today, I all of a sudden had a really strong memory of this guy like he was warning me not play long sessions because it gets the attention of the casino (weird right?) and right then I hit a very large and prolonged losing streak but which I eventually was able to overcome (I mean thank God, right?). 

Since I had the wheel tracker software open, I decided to spin about for awhile with 1 unit on each of red and black.  At a certain point, I saw the opportunity to scalp and won 80 additional units and completely ended the session.

Does anyone else ever experience the "long session curse" and it a real phenomenon based on real world casino counter-algorithms?  Because even though I had this strong synchronistic experience that immediately preceded a large swing, I still suspect no such thing exists...
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Rinad on February 28, 2017, 03:40:00 PM

 I have often felt the same result friend. like last week end, I played 20 sessions,not at once, but begun to feel my back,my neck,ect... all types of pains.  I always had a tendency to get tensed in my neck and upper shoulder, could be how some of us are wired. even in practice. you are not alone in that ,and there is no shame in feeling like it is unimportant or silly to mention it, as a matter of a fact, it could be more important then find a holy grail system. because we are the instrument of the plays we make. I often thought of partner-play for that very same reason of the stress factor attached to performing a system. in a casino, one could be the applying agent of the system,like a quarter back, while the other be like a coach, watching and making the calls,(give and take).
it is one way to get you play higher stakes without stress.

another thing is for me, to apply yoga and stretching exercise. relaxation exercises is a must. a must do, in my case.

another point I like to make is the following;
i come back from a trip and have plays,numbers,ect...running in my head constantly.  we need to create space in our mind to relaxe and "pause".
I play my guitare and it works magic,because it takes all my mind and heart into it.
what ever works for you to "get a brake from numbers" is what one must found. (apart from heavy drugs).
take care,
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Reyth on February 28, 2017, 03:59:31 PM
Yes, this reminds me of how professional THE players talk about how regular exercise and proper diet is so important.

In fact, one of the reasons I switched away from THE poker is BECAUSE of the combination of "gambling stress" AND "competition stress" which is like a whole other arena of stress to boot.

At least with roulette I only have to deal with the gambling stress. :)
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: scepticus on March 01, 2017, 06:40:43 PM

I don't suffer stress when betting roulette Reyth. Might it be when your betting escalates ? Or perhaps it is hereditary ?
I am learning poker  online with Play Money and I find that I am a bit anxious when going all-in. And that is with Play Money ! 
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Reyth on March 01, 2017, 07:26:51 PM
2 years later, the stress is still there but now I just kind of smile and enjoy it the best I can :D

Even with play money (THE), its as if I am in a boxing match with the other player(s).
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Jesper on March 01, 2017, 08:33:41 PM

As we should not risk important money, the target is to win even if we use surplus money, the catch is to beat the wheel. Food can we get from other sources.
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Reyth on March 01, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Jake007 on March 09, 2017, 09:24:37 PM
I found once settling on a system I like I will play test and tweak it. Once I get it where I want I will play test for a whole day before using real money. The stress level is much smaller going in with the money. And the stress level is smaller on a down turn if I know the system can recover. So overall the stress level playing with real money is not so bad. You can then play for a specific amount of time... say no more than 15 minutes, check yourself and if you are doing fine continue. You could use both time frames and bankroll as cues for stopping if needed.

This is all great in theory isnt it :) :) :)
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Jesper on March 11, 2017, 01:49:06 AM
I do not think the winning stress is opposite to the "relaxing waisting time and money".
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Dane on March 11, 2017, 07:35:35 AM
Hej Jesper;  what a shamefull waste of stress :)
I once heard (Discovery Channel) that the natural substance in our brains  filling us with joy is flooding the brains of complusive gamblers whether they win or lose! Rena rama sanningen? Is it true?
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Bayes on March 11, 2017, 10:36:10 AM
It's strange that we tend to get stressed whether something good or bad happens to us. Maybe it's the departure from emotional equilibrium which causes it, regardless of which side we swing to. I've been practicing meditation for about 20 years, and I find it helps, not just in gambling but in everyday life.

Also, knowing your method inside out, having a plan for every eventuality, and knowing the worst/best that can happen in advance of your play certainly helps. But it's still gambling, so there is always an element of uncertainty.
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Dane on March 11, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
Hi Bayes. Some years ago a few people spoke to me: EXCUSE ME, CAN WE ASK YOU A QUESTION?
Of course they could. I did not expect them to ask me a probability question like the one you and I discussed this morning. Still their question upset me:
I answered: "No, I have practised Transcendental Meditation since 1975, so I am healthier than you.

Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Reyth on March 17, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
Sometimes it gets so intense I just have to take a brief break!
Title: Re: Winning Stress
Post by: Dane on March 21, 2017, 12:10:35 PM
 To Reyth:

 is a German word  :)
Just ask the postman.
If you are able to mention one person - just one - who  just NOT need to rest,
please send me a post card. DonĀ“t forget the stamps (Briefmarken).