Sorry for starting a new post; I read the thread from last year (

http://forum.roulette30.com/index.php?topic=922.0) with great interest and wonder if anyone made further progress on a workable American 0/00 version.

I've given it some thought over the past days, but before I get to that I'm curious about a few notes from the original thread:

So, this is what one should try to do in order to convert the bet for the American Wheel

- Keep the numbers as same as possible.
- Mimic the spread on the wheel as same as possible.
- Keep the distribution of numbers over all dozens, columns, colors, high-Low, Odd-Even as possible.
- Cover at least one Zero

I'm most curious about the "zero" aspect - I couldn't tell if the goal was more around a good spread distribution on the wheel vs. anything specific about 0/00.

One thing I noticed when thinking about the problem: on a European board, it's 20 spots out of 37, 54% coverage. On a 38 spot American board, at that ratio we should cover 20.52 - rounding up, that's one more than we had before. Hmm.

So I started thinking of how to maintain an 8 unit bet while covering one additional number, while also maintaining a good spread on the wheel and across the various categories (even/odd, columns, dozens, etc.) This brought me to splitting up the double street (blasphemy, I know) into 2 bets: a 2nd combo of 4, and a single street. This goes from 6 to 7 numbers but still maintains a winning payout on all 21 numbers across 8 units.

What I came up with was:

- 1 unit on 1/2/3 (single street)
- 1 unit on 13/14/16/17 (first quad)
- 1 unit on 29/30/32/33 (2nd quad)
- then 1 unit on the following pairs: 4/5, 6/9, 19/22/, 24/27, and 28/31.

If 0 coverage is important, one of these could be cut out but it'll throw off the balances. The current numbers have 11 black/10 red, a 10/11 split on halves of the wheel (only one gap of 3 spaces, otherwise 2 or less), 7/7/7 splits across the 3 12's, 10/11 hi/lo, 11/10 odd/even, and an 8/6/7 split across the 3 columns.

Eight of the 21 numbers pays +1, 3 pay +4, and 10 pay +10.

Curious if anyone has comments on why this is a terrible idea etc. etc. I'm a relative novice when it comes to roulette so I've found this site to be fascinating in terms of approaches...