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thelaw

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Roulette Forums critique
« on: September 09, 2017, 03:46:34 PM »
Sorry about the block paragraph. This editor is a disaster... :-X

Posted this over at GF, but for some reason some of my posts are under moderation and disappear, so here it is:

Well, GLC over @.cc is what I considered the gold-standard for Roulette info, but he never found an HG as far as I know, and no longer posts.

Members like BlueAngel, Winkel, and Turbo have some interesting ideas, but no solid long-term testing has been posted as far as I know.

VRSedge has some interesting software, and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the smart way to approach the game moving forward, as all analog systems have apparently failed.

Proving a method publicly is a very simple process, and we currently have the ability to test using real wheel numbers, so I think the absence of evidence speaks volumes. I've also noticed inverse correlation between those with the most posts, and actual valuable info.........too many members just looking for attention.

Can't talk about this community without mentioning Steve. When the guy who claims to have computers for sale that beat the game with science starts offering "remote viewing" software, the scam has officially jumped the shark.

Finally, all current Roulette forums are filled almost entirely with hobbyists, not players looking to actually beat the game. This creates constant misdirection and rabbit-holes leading nowhere while destroying any hope of productive strategic discourse toward a common goal.

One final thought: If I were to approach this for purely financial reasons, I would use software, play online live tables only, and expect a very conservative return on my investment. The average return on investment for mutual funds in the US is currently around 12%. "Amarillo Slim, the greatest proposition gambler of all time, held to his father's maxim, 'You can shear a sheep many times, but skin him only once'".-Rounders

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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2017, 07:10:10 PM »
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Members like BlueAngel, Winkel, and Turbo have some interesting ideas, but no solid long-term testing has been posted as far as I know.

All of their systems have been tried, tested, and failed.  KonFuSed tested the Winkel's stuff and the law of the third,(which by the way was nothing more than a cover story for some real APs) and found that it failed, as expect like everything else.

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One final thought: If I were to approach this for purely financial reasons, I would use software, play online live tables only, and expect a very conservative return on my investment. The average return on investment for mutual funds in the US is currently around 12%.

You're wasting your time online.  You can't win much and they will simply refuse to pay you after a while and will even attempt to keep your front money.  You'll have to play in real casino if you want to make the money.  And I don't see a point in your software.

The key to making a living playing roulette isn't to aim low and conservatively.  If you're having to aim low then your method simply doesn't work, and you're merely hoping for some luck. 
 

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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2017, 08:02:02 PM »
To me it is a matter of expectations. If you expect to find in a roulette forum the easy way to riches, like you find in a gardening forum the easy way to plant roses, then your expectations are too high.

For example I am not familiar with GUT, but just the fact that someone took the time and effort to present his system to other roulette players is a big plus already, independently of results. So WHAT if it isn't a relentless money maker? These are discussion forums, where ideas and knowledge are presented, not necessarily the easy way to become millionaire in roulette.

There is a topic in wikihow about "how to win at roulette" where it is explained with images and easy steps how to win. LOL Come on! Roulette advice is not like "how to fry an egg". It is a much more complicated subject.

In my opinion a forum is a place where you should enjoy discussion about our favorite game and read ideas that will help our own thinking about the game and get us just a step further.

Anyone who would spent time and effort to share something is welcome as long as he is not in an ego trip and doesn't undermine others. This is my view on roulette forums. Otherwise a roulette forum should only have only one thread with one post: the winning system.

What I don't understand is why someone who says "you are wasting your time online" wastes his own time in online roulette forums. And why though he doesn't believe in roulette systems he reads and comments on such topics. 
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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2017, 08:40:00 PM »
Anyone who would spent time and effort to share something is welcome as long as he is not in an ego trip and doesn't undermine others. This is my view on roulette forums. Otherwise a roulette forum should only have only one thread with one post: the winning system.

What I don't understand is why someone who says "you are wasting your time online" wastes his own time in online roulette forums. And why though he doesn't believe in roulette systems he reads and comments on such topics.

Personally, I think there is a quick and simple way to clean up most forums and ban the riff-raff:

1. No personal attacks. (attack the method not the man-3 strikes and you're out)
-You're an idiot (banned)
-Your method is useless (ok)

2. No dropping hints (either post your method or go home)

3. No selling (this should be obvious, but as we speak BetSelection is currently being obliterated by allowing members to sell their methods publicly)

Finally, the mods have to grow a pair and start kicking people out while maintaining transparency. This is as simple as creating a thread with updates on who has been banned and why.

Just my .02

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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2017, 09:27:43 PM »
What you really want to get from forum - no attack , no critic, no coments that somebody is idiot ....

This forum exsist quite long. If you will read old posts - you will see the same what is writed now - the same progressions methods the same arguings about have casino advantage or not :) etc...

No one forum member moved from novice in game to proffessional....

You can protect himself  and ban these who critic you, but what benefit from that ? Why you do worse for himself ? This questtion was always main in mine mind......
 

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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2017, 09:42:59 PM »
This is not about ego, but simply cleaning up the boards.

There is no need to attack another member when attacking the method will suffice.
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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2017, 10:20:05 PM »
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2. No dropping hints (either post your method or go home)

If this is true, then why haven't you deleted that stupid f#$%ing thread titled a "Message of Thanks to ..."
 

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about Roulette Forums
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2017, 06:35:54 AM »

Usually, roulette forums are quite boring places just talk without real evidence of any system or starategia or method functionality then people argue about their functionality things would be so easy to prove by storing a game session with real money at the online casino and then put the video then everyone can see youtube but in most cases even though the video is viewable it's a funmoney game that does not in itself prove anything because the funmoney game can take so many times as new that gets a winning session. I look a lot much better than youtube roulette playing real money videos as I read the text on roulette forums in the end roulette is a lot about the player luck you can not force roulette to do things as you want even if you use any type of gaming method and also the stop loss limit is important so you will not lose all the money consecutive loss spirals do not break anything, so the rebets are just futile they do not make you the winner and the cold the real thing is that with little money it makes no sense to play roulette to start playing 100 or even 500 So actually 2000 is the minimum amount you can start 10000 maybe it would be the best if just settle for 300-1000 but here too we come to the situation that players want to win over 50% or even 100% or even more by starting sum of they money their greed, which often leads to their loss
I think that real roulette professional players do not have much roulette forums to show up they have working methods that they do not share for anybody most roulette players are selfish people
 
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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2017, 02:33:06 PM »
Also in the fun mode you can share your method. Videos can be selected. I like real demos. When I invite forum members to watch a live demo, there are a very very few members who participate. When I offer Excel programs of my research ,a individual react. I agree most discussions suddenly finish with no conclusions. Manny threads end with Dobbelsteen.
 
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Re: about Roulette Forums
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2017, 10:33:29 PM »
LiveRouletteOnlinePlayer,
Your post is addressing the topic in the right way.

All the best.

AL
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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 12:54:56 AM »
Welcome to the forum Al!  Thanks for posting! :D
 

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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2017, 10:26:59 AM »
Thanks Reyth.
 

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Re: Roulette Forums critique
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2017, 01:46:02 PM »
Thelaw@. I teach simple ,well defined , complete method of vb . It can win on any wheel where win is actually posible.
    It has included method of data collection that goes beyond vb and can be used to look for and implement different solutions ( bias or ds) .
   I do not leave things to "figire out" for a player and only thing required is to follow line by line my teachings. 
   I'm as frustrated with forums as you are , have been there looking for info in the beginning of my studies. If you are serious about this game, you are welcome to contact me for a further info about what l got on offer.
   P.S. It's a work ( job) as any other, require skill development and it's upplication ( practice).